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silicate free antifreeze

Post by arseatea » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:40 am



Was at the neighborhood hardware looking for stainless steel nuts and found Master Mechanic 50/50 extended life anti freeze. It does not say it is silicate free but does say that it 'meets the silicate-free requirements of Japanese OEMs'. I hate to presume anything with this 32 year old, but I suppose it is ok to use it.. I could not find anything that mentions silicate free in the 3 varieties at Walmart. I did not check Advance Auto Parts..



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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by redbug » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:40 am

Honda antifreeze will take care of all doubts and with a distilled water flush you should be ready to go.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by arseatea » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:34 pm

Never really thought about going to a Honda Auto dealership, but we have no Honda Bike dealerships in the area. But, you are right about that. Take away all doubts..

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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by cyberlon » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:31 pm

Dexcool (orange antifreeze) is silicate free. Additional information for what Walmart carries is available on their website. Just be sure to get air out of the system, as it causes problems as antifreeze ages.

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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by suvcw04 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:09 pm

I would not use DexCrap to flush a toilet.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by redbug » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:24 pm

Dexcool? The horror stories of dexcool makes me shiver. I would not put it in a volkswagon. This is my opinion only and gl1100 manual sez change antifreeze every two years anyway, yes burp the cooling system to remove air for sure.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by winguyjo » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:27 pm

i am still fairly new to goldwings so i am a bit late to this party but ...

my reading shows me that it is generally accepted that our coolant must be silicate-free. after flushing and filling the cooling system i discovered that there is no mention of this in the owners manual so i have to ask "why silicate-free ?"

also, when selecting coolant from the dizzying array on the shelf i finally selected prestone dex-cool compatible long-life anti-freeze since it was one of the very few that were labelled "silicate-free" and felt like a good goldwinger after finishing the flush and fill. now i am sensing some hate regarding dexcool. what's up with that ? do i really need to do this over again ?

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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by MikeB » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:53 pm

I could not find any reference to the type of fluid to use in the GL1200 owners manual but I did find a reference for it in my GL1500 owners manual.


And for peace of mind, I only use Honda coolant and distilled water. I buy the coolant I use from the local Honda Auto Dealership.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by winguyjo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:11 am

ok, i should have mentioned that my bike is a 1982 gl1100.
i am wondering if maybe they weren't using silicates in anti-freeze way back then, thus, no mention of it in the owners manual.

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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by MikeB » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:25 am

I do not have an owners manual for a GL1100. Even so, I don't think it would be a mistake to use Honda coolant in any engine that has aluminum components.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by AZgl1800 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:07 am

as long as it says "safe for Aluminum engines" you are good to go.
you will also find the statement on that container "silicate free"

either wording is okay and safe for our bikes, any year model.

the DexCool is okay also, but you want to be sure that all the old antifreeze is gone before you use it.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by winguyjo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:33 pm

dexcool certainly has it's haters ... it seems there was an issue years ago where it was eating up manifold gaskets on certain engines.
what concerns me is that i have also read that it could eat away at the solder joints in our brass rads.
last night i emailed prestone to inquire about that and there was a reply waiting for me when i got up this morning ... good customer service there !
the reply stated that they were unaware of any issues in that regard, and that there should be no issue in this application. call me a cynic but it seems that regardless, they would be unlikely to admit to any issues lest everyone with a failed radiator solder joint come looking for restitution.
i guess the bottom line is that i am not going to rest easy until i drain it out and get some honda coolant in there.

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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by 823JIM » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:45 pm

Email I sent to Prestone:
Is Prestone 50/50 predeluted with Cor-Guard silicate free? I have a Honda that calls for silicate free coolant, am I safe with this Prestone product?

Their reply:
Good Morning Jim,
Prestone Information <Information@prestone.com>
Yes, it is, and yes, you are. Please let me know if you require anything further.
Aaron Jones
Prestone Consumer Relations Representative
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by MikeB » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:20 pm

How much is the Prestone 50/50 pre-diluted with Cor-Guard per gallon? It can't possibly be inexpensive enough to keep me from using what I already know works and I know will not damage the internal workings of the Gold Wing cooling system.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by winguyjo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:49 pm

that's the same prestone rep that answered me.

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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by 823JIM » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:12 pm

MikeB wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:20 pm
How much is the Prestone 50/50 pre-diluted with Cor-Guard per gallon? It can't possibly be inexpensive enough to keep me from using what I already know works and I know will not damage the internal workings of the Gold Wing cooling system.
Prestone 50/50 : $8.88 a gallon at Walmart,
Honda HP 50/50: $9.99 a quart ($39.96 a gal.) at Wingstuff,
Honda automotive 50/50 type 2: $19.23 a gallon MSRP.
Your choice but I have used Prestone for over 70K miles in my '03 (has 102K on clock) no problems and cools fine.
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Re: silicate free antifreeze

Post by DenverWinger » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:56 am

Interesting to know the Prestone I have been using for years in everything is silicate-free, since it doesn't mention that on the label.

Last year I looked high and low for antifreeze specifically saying silicate-free, finally found something at O'Reiley's costing like $22 gallon. Don't remember the brand, offhand.

Think in the future I'll just continue using good ol' Prestone.


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