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Post by hap2 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:19 pm



Does it matter what kind of shoes you're wearing to put a bike up on the centerstand?

Believe it or not, but I have YET to put the bike up on the center-stand by myself. Maybe it's a case of not doing the method correctly, but I want to be able to do it and I've been told that I'll never do it just wearing old runners



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Re: centerstand

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:20 pm

hap2 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:19 pm
Does it matter what kind of shoes you're wearing to put a bike up on the centerstand?

Believe it or not, but I have YET to put the bike up on the center-stand by myself. Maybe it's a case of not doing the method correctly, but I want to be able to do it and I've been told that I'll never do it just wearing old runners
I do it wearing runners all the time.

I've actually done it before in my bare feet - it kinda hurts, but you can do it.

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Post by C-dub » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:50 pm

I tried it one time, while out in the garage in my slippers. That hurts and I was not successful. IMHO, whatever shoes you do this with must have a sole at least as hard or thick as tennis shoes. The harder the better - for your foot.
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Re: centerstand

Post by hap2 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:28 pm

I believe u...time to go to the shoe (or boot) store

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Post by themainviking » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:13 am

Just for the experience of successfully getting the bike on the center stand, why don't you put the rear wheel on a piece of 3/4 inch plywood. If that is not enough, then move up to a 2 inch board, which is 1 1/2 inches thick. Do this a few times till you find out what you are doing right. Just a suggestion.
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Re: centerstand

Post by minimac » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:51 am

I've never had a problem getting my 1500 on the centerstand. A slight pull on the passenger grab handle while step down on the stand lever.It did get really easy after putting on the Austone rear tire, though.

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Re: centerstand

Post by hap2 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:58 am

themainviking: I appreciate the suggestion & will try it. I needs lotsa help, but big harleys don't have centerstands, so until I get comfortable doing it (in & off), on the sidestand it remains.

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Re: centerstand

Post by Alan_Hepburn » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:00 pm

I haven't been successful getting mine up on the center stand - I guess the sidecar adds too much weight for me to lift it up onto the stand!
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Post by Andy Cote » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:11 pm

The small footpad used to lower the centerstand provides no force or assistance in levering the bike onto the centerstand. It is there to hold the stand still while the bike is pivoted up.

It's all about the technique. Sorta like judo - use the opponents weight against it. Get the bike moving backward and the momentum will swing it up and over top dead center. Or for us engine guys, it's a flywheel effect.

Along with the board approach, if it makes you feel better, you can enlist a buddy to stand on the other side for balance. He doesn't need to lift or pull, just keep the bike from falling to the side.
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Re: centerstand

Post by FM-USA » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:56 pm

I went from the '83 GL1100-A to GL1500-I and when I test road the 1500 one of my tests was putting it up on it's C-stand. Well my 1100 was quite a chore due to low air in the rear shock (might be your problem) and week left rear spring-shock, so I similarly hoisted up that 1500. The seller said I lifted that 1500 a couple inches off the floor and it slid on the C-stand rearward 6 inches! To me lifting it, it felt like a mid size dirt bike.

ANYways...
Check rear shock air pressure, if near Zero PSI, it's going to be TUFF to lift. Besides the wood under the tire trick there's another one making it a little easier.
__Right hand on passenger hold bar, right foot on C-stand and press it to the floor until the bike is statically balanced on that C-stand. This squares up the bike to the floor/ground.
__At your hip, swing ALL your weight (lifting left foot off the floor) rearward AT the same time as you lift. (your hip hits your right hand & NO HIGHER than your wrist)
__The weight you impart to the rear helps "Schwing the Wing" up on that stand.

It gets easier when you get the perfect timing of 'Schwing & Lift'. ;)

We all have our ways, this one works quite well for me. Hopefully you also.

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Re: centerstand

Post by mterraci » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:41 pm

At first I had trouble putting the bike up on the center stand. I discovered I didn't have the bike centered properly.
To me it tends to feel like the bike is leaning too far over to the right side (the thought of letting it go over too far and dropping it messes with your head). However, when I would begin to put the center stand down on the concrete I realized that I did not have both of the feet squarely in contact with the ground (if both of the feet are not squarely on the concrete you'll never get the bike up on the center stand).
Now I make certain both feet of the center stand are in contact with the ground (even though it feels like the bike is leaning a little bit too far over to the right side) and put the bike up very easily every time. I wear either riding boots or tennis shoes.

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Re: centerstand

Post by RockportDave » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:57 pm

Mine can be a **** to get up on it sometimes. I make sure the rear shock has plenty of air in it. I wear cheap thin sole shoes when working on it and found it is a little easier on the foot with my riding boots on. I’ve had 3 1500s and all were different, one was a pain, one was simple like it had hydraulics helping it (both 1988s) and the 1999 is a little harder...I’m also a lot older.
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Post by ekvh » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:16 pm

I found a great way to do it bare foot and in your boxers or briefs. Stand to the side of the bike facing backwards. Reach down with your right hand. Pick up the already removed center stand and hang it on the wall where it belongs. Done, easy peasy, no pain, no effort at all.

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Post by RockportDave » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:26 pm

Is b@@ger a bad word? I got edited. Didn’t preview before I sent it.
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Re: centerstand

Post by FM-USA » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:59 pm

RockportDave wrote:
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Re: centerstand

Post by n2nascar@kc.rr.com » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:39 am

hap2 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:19 pm
Does it matter what kind of shoes you're wearing to put a bike up on the centerstand?

Believe it or not, but I have YET to put the bike up on the center-stand by myself. Maybe it's a case of not doing the method correctly, but I want to be able to do it and I've been told that I'll never do it just wearing old runners
The shoes do matter don't use house slipper's ,use boots or good sole tenner shoes .

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Re: centerstand

Post by topgun » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:59 am

I feel shoes are important to the process, namely the work shoes I normally ride with.
Also maximum air in shocks, as mentioned.
I am borderline able to do it without a bit of assistance and have much more success
Using my LEFT foot to do the stand than my right, better angle and position with grab handle, maybe.?

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Post by dakotanator » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:48 pm

Okay...I'll sacrifice my pride and ask the STUPID question.............

Why hasn't a company invented a centerstand that works like an electric leveling jack on an RV..?

I have an '83 Aspencade, and it only weighs about what.....750-ish, wet...? I can get it on the stand okay, with my RIDING BOOTS. Hurts a little with tennies, but I do it now and then.

There HAS to be a company that makes them...........isn't there..? I've seen the one from Kirker that pivots back-n-forth to jack it up, but who wants to do THAT with their 1000 lb bikes...? I wouldn't.

I'm thinking there would be one hell of a market for it. Don't TEMPT ME.....I'll do it, by golly..!! hahaha
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Re: centerstand

Post by FM-USA » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:02 pm

dakotanator wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:48 pm
Okay...I'll sacrifice my pride and ask the STUPID question.............

Why hasn't a company invented a centerstand that works like an electric leveling jack on an RV..?
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I'm thinking there would be one hell of a market for it. Don't TEMPT ME.....I'll do it, by golly..!! hahaha
At $3,000+ for 'landing gear' I was/am interested in something much more budgetable.
Actually with the centerstand being in the near perfect place, I can see an elec. or hydrolic centerstand working. Only 'Q' is frame stresses.

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Post by dakotanator » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:59 pm

I searched on YouTube for them. Did find a few, but they're for the HD's. Concept is very do-able.

There was ONE GUY who made one for his Valkyrie. Looked really nice. Wish he would have put specs out for others.......but....?

Maybe it's a winter project for me..? I'm pretty handy with my plasma cutter and welder, and I always "over-engineer" whatever I make.
My rocket stoves are pretty popular. I just might try to come up with something for my '83. If it works out the way I like, maybe I'll venture into newer years.
Something to ponder until I have to put mine to bed for winter.

The main issue would be finding the "right-size" actuator to tuck up into the frame somewhere. I'd like to find a way to use the current centerstand on my bike,
and just be able to attach a bracket so that the actuator is able to drop it in place. (Just rambling and thinking to myself while I'm typing......hahaha)
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Re: centerstand

Post by FM-USA » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:07 pm

When I looked at my Wings C'stand, I wasn't too impressed with sheet metal for strength for what we're looking to do. Of course it's good for it current purpose.

Shock absorbing needs to be factored in. Don't want hard shocks going through the frame to delicate, expensive or eventual unreplaceable items.

Offhand, quick thought, Spiraled Cam lift?

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Re: centerstand

Post by dakotanator » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:15 pm

The optimal choice is to adapt a "lift mechanism" of some kind, be it a screw-drive or actuator to the stock stand. Keeping the OEM stand allows for the ability of the manufacturers design to be utilized without any extra stress on the surrounding structure. Call it an "auto foot".
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Re: centerstand

Post by DarthJ » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:42 am

I've done it in my riding boots (best for me ) sneakers (works fine) and flip flops (can do it, but wouldn't recommend as it hurts a bit, lol)
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Re: centerstand

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:49 pm

DarthJ wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:42 am
I've done it in my riding boots (best for me ) sneakers (works fine) and flip flops (can do it, but wouldn't recommend as it hurts a bit, lol)
I've done it once or twice in bare feet. Ouch!

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Re: centerstand

Post by C-dub » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:33 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:49 pm
DarthJ wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:42 am
I've done it in my riding boots (best for me ) sneakers (works fine) and flip flops (can do it, but wouldn't recommend as it hurts a bit, lol)
I've done it once or twice in bare feet. Ouch!
I have not tried that. I did start to put it on the center stand in my slippers once. I probably did not even get the back tire off one millimeter before realizing that was not going to happen without a great deal of pain if it happened at all.


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