Tragedy in New Hampshire.


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Tragedy in New Hampshire.

Post by dingdong » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:38 pm



For just this reason I have thought seriously about giving it up. Over the last 3 years I have had 4 near misses with vehicles crossing over into my lane. One actually forced us off onto the shoulder. Scary!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-hampshir ... -3-injured


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Post by Viking » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:16 am

Doesn't say why, but the highway has double solid yellow lines, so not a passing zone. Maybe a cell phone?
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Post by MikeB » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:25 pm

Maybe a medical emergency for the truck driver.
Whatever the reason, they were unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Motorcycle, car, or truck, whatever was going the opposite direction was doomed. That was a big trailer attached to that pick-up truck.

It can happen anywhere at anytime. When your number is up, or the person/people riding with you has had their number pop up in the lottery of life as cancelled, you stand the chance of being chosen to travel with them.

All you can do is live your life and don't exacerbate matters by taking unnecessary risks.
And remember that riding is not an unnecessary risk. It is part of your life.
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Re: Tragedy in New Hampshire.

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:36 pm

I have read several different news stories on this.
the truck driver was an employee of a Hotshot trucking company.

he has been making himself available for reviews with all LEOs and several media sources.

no real facts have been reported, only assumptions from people who have seen the pictures, of those 99.99% will be incorrect.

NTSB is investigating the accident, and their report will be many days in the future. they do not work fast, they work diligently to find the truth.
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Post by TwoTone Trike » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:55 pm

I agree with MikeB when your number's up it doesn't matter where you are or what you are doing. I had a cager turn in front of me in 2008. I had massive internal injuries and bled out five times. I had every reason to be dead. but it wasn't my time. My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved. God bless you all.

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Post by raven41951 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:40 pm

I'm right here in the middle of it. The latest is the truck driver is 23 years old and it was his second run for the company. He has been arrested and charged but I don't know with what. He also has 2 OUIs on his record. How did he get a license let alone a job driving a truck? He may not need or have a CDL to drive the rig he was running. I believe it was a transport of some type and not semi. News at 5 oin 21 minutes should have a bunch more details.

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Post by raven41951 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:06 pm

5:00 news today (Fox 25); 7 Counts negligent homicide. Pleaded not guilty and waived his right to appear at hearing which is allowed in NH. He was previously involved in a crash near Springfield working for a different company but was not charged. Also suspected of drug possession in February 2019. He's a real sweetheart. Even looks like he's hooked on percs.

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Re: Tragedy in New Hampshire.

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:25 pm

the truck was a Dodge 2500, so a CDL was not required if pulling less than 26,000 lbs.

his past history though, reveals that he should have been in jail, not on the road.
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Post by raven41951 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:30 am

Just caught the 5 AM news on FOX25 Boston. Here's what I remember:
Arrested for OUI in 2013.
Involved in a crash in May in Connecticut. He failed field sobriety test and refused chemical tests but for some reason his CDL was not lifted.
He was also involved in a wreck in Baytown Texas but not sure when, no charges filed.
He had a CDL, it was suspended for 6 months but restored in May. (Mass has a 0.05 limit for CDL-lifetime ban)
The company he drove for had 65 violations in 45 inspections including 7 CDL violations (no specifics).
The head of the Massachusetts RMV has resigned her position as a result of yet another deadly debacle.
Seven bikers are still no longer with us.

I have lived in Mass my entire 67+ years (I spend a lot less time here following semi-retirement). I'm a conservative-libertarian (yes there are still some of us here, someone's got to pay the bills). I have seen this commonwealth get stricter and stricter over the years in everything from gun control, helmet laws, tobacco laws (now must be 21 and no flavors) and you name it all in the "interest" of public health and welfare.

They still have no grasp that the tighter they squeeze the more that falls through the cracks. They are only interested in the money while showing a faux interest in our freedoms.

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Re: Tragedy in New Hampshire.

Post by dingdong » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:54 am

Here is the latest report from Fox. This dude has a problem for sure.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusett ... iker-crash
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Re: Tragedy in New Hampshire.

Post by AZgl1800 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:01 am

dingdong wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:54 am
Here is the latest report from Fox. This dude has a problem for sure.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusett ... iker-crash
that report has added in more info than known before.
at least 3 of the events mentioned should have resulted in a permanent loss of CDL privileges.

1 of them, IIRC, should have seen him doing time inside the bars.
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Post by tamathumper » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:54 am

I don't think CDL has any bearing in this situation.

The company he was driving for was a Hot Shot hauler, and AFAIK that doesn't require a CDL.
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Post by Solina Dave » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:53 pm

Tom,
I saw your post, regarding this tragedy, last Saturday. I thought that I'd been waiting for more details before commenting. But in reality, I couldn't think of anything to say. I'm still that way. I look at the photo of the mangled motorcycle carnage, and it leaves me breathless. I'm so saddened when I think of the pain, that those left behind must endure. The survivors, the families, the possible children, the friends. The whole thing is hard to believe. What do you do with the truck driver? Life without parole? I suppose. I'm not going to say anything else. What can you say? It's like losing part of your family. It sucks!
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Post by Rambozo » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:33 am

While this should never have happened because this guy should not have been driving, period. I am curious as to helmets or lack thereof on the victims. I have yet to see any reporting on that.

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Post by raven41951 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:21 am

Nothing new on today's news. Mass RMV blaming CT RMV and vice versa for this POS.

There was a vigil in Whitman yesterday with over 3,000 in attendance. GoFundMe page has over 500K with a goal of 700K. Full details on boston25news.com

So far I have tried to post just some info keeping my personal thoughts in regards to the seven to myself. Dave, like you I am at a total loss for what to say about our fellow bikers. These folks were also Marines. Such a tragic loss to mankind. I can only hope that they are in a better place.

As far as the helmets go, NH does not have a helmet law (nor does ME and CT). Many Mass riders go to NH because its a lot more rural than Mass for riding. Many opt to free themselves of the helmet, some temporarily, others constantly. I am also guilty on the temporary part. When slow riding such as in the line of traffic getting into Weirs Beach on bike weekend the openness is nice and its cooler. Open road riding I most always wear my helmet. Needless to say I will always wear it from now on.

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Post by jgarrett » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:27 am

I did some online research on this "guy" and he is way beyond sketchy.... They show him in a Denny's on crack (supposedly) and busted him with a crack pipe. Other recent accidents but nothing like hitting a load of bikers.
Several years back we has some yahoo cross the line and kill 2 couples on their Goldwings near the lake in Ogallala, NE. I THINK that guy went to prison, can't remember for sure.
There will be other bikers and Marine's in prison and I doubt this "guy's" stint will be an easy one to get through. IMHO

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Post by mberk01 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:11 am

I'm internally conflicted regarding how I feel about continuing to ride after reading about this tragedy. I guess I have to settle with the side of me that feels when it's your time to go there's nothing you can do about it. Recently I was forced off the road by an on-coming driver passing a semi on a two-lane US highway. It was broad daylight, the road was straight and flat. We were both going about 65 MPH and we almost had a head-on collision. Oh by the way, at the time I was driving my crew-cab dually with the headlights on. After that I bought a dashcam. I figured that should a similar occurrence happen again and I die, at least my widow might get a few bucks out of it. Always thinking about the practical aspect.

Getting out of bed in the morning involves some degree of danger. I could slip and fall while stepping over my two German Shepherds. It's almost happened more than once. But then if I stayed in bed I could get hit by a meteor while asleep. Yes, I'll take every measure under the sun to increase my odds; but no sport is perfectly safe. Consider horseback riding, football, surfing, skiing or snow boarding, just to name a few. There's always a risk of injury or death. Life is meant to be experienced. I'd rather die doing something I love than pine away my life regretting the things I was afraid to do because they weren't completely safe. No, I won't quit riding my motorcycle.

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Post by triker101 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:22 pm

Hi Everyone:
I too was taken back by this tragedy. I live in a lakeside area with 9 miles of beach to ride beside in Canada. I have a boat of a machine in a decked-out Trike Gl1500 and almost every ride out, I must do a swerve or dead stop. One lady walked in front of me with her head down buried into a cell phone. I hit my horn and shouted out, but she just kept on into her phone?? How can people be oblivious to us riders? Keep your senses on a swivel and look out for the unknown at all times.I know it has been said many times, but too many lives are being lost do to idiots. Be safe out there, and RIP to the 7 lost while enjoying the freedom of the air.

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Post by wildanimal84 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:29 pm

This individual does not deserve to be walking around on bail, he needs to be locked in the basement with no access to sunlight and only the basic supplies. My heart and prayers goes out to those individuals and their families who lost their lives that dreadful day

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Re: Tragedy in New Hampshire.

Post by Sadanorakman » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:20 am

wildanimal84 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:29 pm
This individual does not deserve to be walking around on bail, he needs to be locked in the basement with no access to sunlight and only the basic supplies. My heart and prayers goes out to those individuals and their families who lost their lives that dreadful day
Hang the guy. It wasn't an accident, it was seven counts of murder... Why should the state pay to keep him alive the rest of his years?
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Post by Big Blue UK » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:50 pm

raven41951 wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:30 am
The head of the Massachusetts RMV has resigned her position as a result of yet another deadly debacle.
Why does that walking pile of **** get to just resign, she should be in the cell next to the pile of **** driver, in Venezuela. He carelessly killed 7 people, death is too good. No doubt the **** will have his identity changed so no harm can come to him, anyone involved in such a thing, deserves to be laid to rest along with the people murdered.
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Post by AZgl1800 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:03 pm

I disagree with "life sentences".
that means that some worthless creep is being fed, housed, and watched 24/7 on my money.

if it is bad enough for a "life sentence", it is time for the needle.
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Post by raven41951 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:45 pm

I am tending toward blaming the Mass RMV. They have a backlog of over a THOUSAND of these exact same incidents. That's over a thousand more of these very same idiots still on the road! The new acting head of the RMV has started into the back log but I consider this unforgiveable action to be "Token" work. Big Brother is a big moron. Let this be a lesson to all those who want big government. The bigger it is the more incompetent it is.

Yes, the pos driver is ultimately to blame, but had the Mass RMV done their sworn duty, this might not have happened. I hope the rest of my fellow **** see this.



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