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Roaring Heat Rash!!

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Evening all:
Just returned from a 1,100 mile road trip and about half of that was during a 11 hour run through 100+ degrees temps and then add the road heat. Needless to say, this resulted in a roaring case of heat rash. Said all that to say this - any suggestions as to a set pad or something to allow cooler air to circulate under my legs? If there is a product out there that will do what I need, what is the product name and were can I purchase one?

My bike is a 2016 gl1800. The older bike I traded for this one had 'air wings (?)' that you could adjust to force air toward the rider. What is your opinion for a set of these? Where to purchase??

In about a month I am doing a similar long distance run so need something to prevent heat rash.
Any suggestions welcome...
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Believe it or not, a sheepskin seat cover works great for keeping your butt cool in hot weather riding. Just toss it in the trunk or saddlebag when not in use and you'll always have it with you ready to utilize in either hot or cool weather. I doubted it until I tried it but it actually works.

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Bead seat. Best $10 you'll ever spend.
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I also ride a 2016 and am in the nice cool area of Texas.

I've been experimenting with clothing more this summer in the heat. for the lower regions I bought some armachillo underwear from Deluth Trading Co. and it seems to be working great. I haven't done any 11hr+ stuff in that kind of heat yet. So far only 98-99 with heat index aroun 110 for 2-3 hours. No heat rash issues for me yet. I've also been wearing thin lightweight pants with ripstop underneath my mesh riding gear. For the top I'm trying out some of my Underarmour compression heat gear under the mesh jacket. all of this is working out pretty well so far. I had my wife try some out a couple days ago on a 200 mile ride and she was a little surprised it worked so well.
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There's a product called Anti Monkey Butt Powder. It won't help with keeping you cooler, but it can help to prevent heat rash.

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nwkwinger wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:14 pm
There's a product called Anti Monkey Butt Powder. It won't help with keeping you cooler, but it can help to prevent heat rash.
I was going to suggest this, and also that you get a Phase Change vest to keep your body core cooler.

I have this one https://www.glaciertek.com/high-visibility/
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I have to say, all of the powders and creams are just treating the symptoms.

The bead set provides ventilation, and prevents the rash from ever happening in the first place.

I have big tubes and cans of Anti-Monkey Butt Powder, Chamois Butt'r, and other salves. I don't know where they are, because once I put the cheap bead seat on there, I didn't need them any more.
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For those that find those bead things comfortable to use, go for it. If it works, great!

I do not find those things comfortable and would rather find material that wicks the moisture away from my skin to help prevent this and keep me cool. Whatever works best for each person, right? Everyone is different and there is no perfect solution that will satisfy everyone. Hmmm, sounds familiar. ;)
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Agree with C-Dub on this one. To each his own, but what worked for me was a change to a different style of underwear, that I never would have worn in my younger days. The new tech stuff really works. The one I use is LD Comfort. I tried beads, and gel and sheepskin and waffle pads and "for me" none of that did it. I know other people who swear by beads and sheepskin pads and for them, that is fantastic. For me it was (as C-Dub said) wicking the moisture away from my tender epidermis so I was not "boiling in my own oil" so to speak. I was informed about this stuff by a bicycle rider who rides thousands of miles on a bicycle. I decided, if it was good enough for them guys, I should try it. On multi day rides, at the end of each day, I wash them out in a bathroom sink, rinse them real well and drip em dry so they are ready the day after the next. I carry two sets.
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I'm not entirely sure he's talking about what everyone is suggesting solutions for.

The hot air exiting from the side vents on the Goldwing is whatever the ambient temperature is, plus whatever heat the radiators have dumped into it. The engine has to get rid of excess heat. It does this by transferring the heat of the engine to the coolant (at close to 220 degrees F), and then transferring the heat from the coolant to the air going through the radiators.

The air going through the radiators absorbs the heat from the radiators, and in doing so, the temperature of the air goes up.

Now when the ambient air is 70 degrees, and the radiators raise that by say 30 degrees, you get air that is 100 degrees, and your body can handle that easily.

But when the ambient air is already 100 degrees, and you dump another 30 degrees into that, you get 130 degrees - and that temperature will burn exposed skin in 15 seconds, and covered skin after a few minutes. The longer your skin is exposed to heat, the less temperature required to cause a burn. After hours of riding in 100+F temperatures, the hot air blowing on your legs can easily cause burns, which look like a red heat rash - but are in actuality serious burns.

So the answer is to a) redirect the heated air away from your body, and b) wear more protective, heat-insulating clothing. Wind wings definitely help with the former, and any decent riding gear helps with the latter.

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I think he is talking about getting heat rash on his legs where the person meats the seat, not heat rash from heated air exiting the bike.

I use a beaded seat cover by BeadRider https://www.beadrider.com/.

Allows better air circulation under the person where you meet the seat.

There is also an Anti Monkey Butt Powder https://www.antimonkeybutt.com/ you can use. I've never tried it so I do not have personal experience with it.
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Thanks so much guys... all good advise.
I am prone to a fungus that develops between my scrotum and checks of my butt. Even working around the house, if I sweat anywhere it will be in this area. My pants look like I sat in a pool of water. (:

The rash turns really red and burns at the touch when bathing. I went to the doctor recently for medication to heal and so far it is taking longer than expected. I am using Nystatin power and Nystatin cream. Hopefully in time this will work. However, the next time I take an extended long ride trip in the extreme heat I will go through this all over again. So, for me, the solution is to keep my butt as cool as possible. I will investigate the recommendations given.
If you have ever experienced fungal rash in that area, it can be really discomforting.

One more thing - if anyone has a set of wind wings that will fit a 2016 gl1800 HPMG you are no longer using I will certainly be interested in a purchase..

Thanks to all.....
Great conversation.......
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I had sheepskin covers on my car seats for years and loved them. No burning heat in the summer and no freezing in the winter. So when I got my own motorcycle, the first thing that I did was purchase a sheepskin cover for the seat. While my husband and others complain of that "burning hot seat", I'm as comfortable as can be. No matter how long I ride, no heat rash!

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Never tried the sheepskin..But many years ago I experienced saddle burn (heat rash) after a brutally hot and humid day sitting in bumper to bumper traffic on the NY southern state parkway. I took an old towel


and two bungees and WA-LA no more burn at all since then. I have ridden 100's of thousands of mile with this set up. It works! And if you stop and camp and need a towel, you have one thats easily dried draped across the handle bars to dry. Road side repairs and need to kneel or sit on something besides the road surface. Instant padding. I like multitasking.
I back pack and hiking gear is great for beating some of the heat and staying as comfortable as well. Get away from wearing cotton in hot weather..Nylon swimming speedo or trunks instead of cotton briefs. I use the speedo myself. Nylon pants instead of jeans and a non cotton hiking shirt. These materials do not absorb sweat so they dry faster keeping you more comfortable.

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I have been doing multi day rides for 10 years. The first time that I did Run for the Wall I was in pain after the third day. At that time I used Monkey But. I now dress properly and use LD Comfort underwear and a good pair of riding pants. No cotton underwear and jeans again.

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I bought an "Airhawk" seat cushion a few years ago..This is the same type of seat cushion technology they use in hospitals for bed sores.. It is an adjustable air cushion, with a mesh covering, and allows air to flow under you.. It is a cushion, AND has air circulation!!!. If it is going to be really hot and sticky, I will also apply an "Antiperspirant" like right guard or similar to my crotch area before putting on my clothing... It prevents persperation..and reduces and or eliminates a rash..
These two things combined..and never had a problem..
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During the early 80's I worked four years in a BMW shop. We had several iron butt riders plus those riders tended to put major miles on their bikes. In that time I heard ideas ranging from mild to "what did you just say" ideas. Some I cannot go into details here.

I use some scuba skins ( bicycle shorts without the padding) and some sheepskin thrown on the seat and I was good to go. I went from Phoenix to just outside Columbus Ohio in two days. No problem!

Keep trying different things till you find what works for you.

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I'm trying to figure out why there isn't a factory cooled or ventilated seat available for bikes yet. I love them on my car seats..
It seams that would be more in demand than heated seats since most of our riding is done in the heat... just sayin.

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CORN STARCH. oh Yeah. there may be stuff that is soothing after you get butt rash- but CORN STARCH will do that AND work to prevent it! My ship (a DD) had no AC for enlisted berthing- we cooled the area by washing down the ship at a certain point in the temperature drop-- too soon and you got steam, too late and no help- but the washdown could drop the berthing areas by an extra 5-10 degrees- We kept CS handy and used it liberally. (fast forward 50 years and we find out that our friend talcum powder isn't so friendly to women-) point being- baby powder isn't as effective- and is made of talc, which is a METAL- a VERY soft metal, but still a metal that is not normally found in the human body- all that to say- use CORN STARCH instead of baby powder- the advantage of buying it as a baby product- is the dispenser - a plastic shaker bottle instead of a cardboard box. I still have the image of a shipmate pouring CS into his BVDs and letting waistband go and the cloud of powder surrounding him!! but he didn't have no butt rash!!

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Hello all:
Sorry for the late reply. I just returned from a repeat of 1,144 mile trip that started this thread. I did use medicated powder, changed from jeans to a breathable material and installed a set of Air Wings on the bike. That combination worked! At least for this ride.
I also used the sheepskin but took it off ahead of a rain and forgot to take it with me, so I can't say if that would've worked.
I am staying with the above combination until something else happens. I will purchase the Monkey Butt cream though. Just good stuff to have in the saddlebag.
thanks for all the scenarios, suggestions, and advice. I can surely relate to each one.
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