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Tire Balancing Beads

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Has anyone used these in their motorcycle tires. Do they really work? Have you had any problems with them. Thanks in advance



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I have been using balance beads successfully for about eight years. They work as advertised.

I started out using Dyna Beads and then changed to Counteract Balance beads. The Counteract Balancing beads were more economical. Seems like if there are products on the market that has Motorcycle or Marine attached to the marketing information, the price doubles.

You can buy two 10 ounce bags of Counteract Balancing beads from Ebay for about $25.
Or, you can buy enough to do one motorcycle, about 4 ounces, of Dyna Beads for about $22.

I change my own tires plus do tire changes for friends that like the balance beads so it makes sense for me to buy the larger quantity of the Counteract Balance beads.

If you install them through the tire valve stem, it will go slowly if you have the OEM valve stems. The air passage in the OEM stems are bit smaller than the solid metal aftermarket valve stems. It seems like it took three times as long to install them in my ST1100 straight valve stems than it did for the GL1500 and GL1800 OEM 90 degree OEM stems. I've got aftermarket valve stems on the Gold Wings now so it goes quickly.
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They really work. Many of us have been using them for years! Read this:

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I bought balancing beads to do the wife's 1300 vtx a fee weeks after we bought her bike. We then discovered her bike has tubes and I phoned a Honda shop and spoke to the service guy he said he wouldn't use them on tubed wheels. After I installed the tire I phoned the closest Honda dealer to me and they wanted $20 just to balance While there I asked the guys up front one said he never liked the beads and the other said he thought with the tube you needed something like 50% more but he wasn't sure of the formula. I had them in my 1500 and never had an issue.

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Plumber8939 wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:35 pm
I bought balancing beads to do the wife's 1300 vtx a fee weeks after we bought her bike. We then discovered her bike has tubes and I phoned a Honda shop and spoke to the service guy he said he wouldn't use them on tubed wheels. After I installed the tire I phoned the closest Honda dealer to me and they wanted $20 just to balance While there I asked the guys up front one said he never liked the beads and the other said he thought with the tube you needed something like 50% more but he wasn't sure of the formula. I had them in my 1500 and never had an issue.
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Ditto on using them.
for more than 20 years, the only way to go.

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Plumber8939 wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:35 pm
I bought balancing beads to do the wife's 1300 vtx a fee weeks after we bought her bike. We then discovered her bike has tubes and I phoned a Honda shop and spoke to the service guy he said he wouldn't use them on tubed wheels. After I installed the tire I phoned the closest Honda dealer to me and they wanted $20 just to balance While there I asked the guys up front one said he never liked the beads and the other said he thought with the tube you needed something like 50% more but he wasn't sure of the formula. I had them in my 1500 and never had an issue.
I've used them in tubed tires, no change in amount, and they work fine. They do not cause any wear/problems in the tubes, just like they don't have problems with tubeless.

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Never used "Balance Beads" … but have been using Airsoft .22 cal hard plastic BBs "Red Jackets" for years. I typically use same weight as suggested by "BB's" online chart, I put them in at the bead to rim area at mount time. I vacuum them out same way at tire removal time … and rinse & re-use. Not in tubed tires.

The Balance Beads would work in tubes just fine.
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CrystalPistol wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:11 pm
Airsoft .22 cal hard plastic BBs
I do this too. I buy bulk airsoft from Princess Auto (Harbour Freight North of 49*) and they go out with the old tire.

Measure weight with a kitchen scale and put them in ziploc bags for ease of use.

Cannot install through valve stem, must be installed during (tubeless) tire mounting. Work well for me.
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Agree with everyone that they work very well. I'm happy with them.

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I've had beads in my GL-1500 tires for around 10,000 miles now.
Smooth as silk. No vibration at all.
I'll be using them again.
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Used them in an 84 Gl1200A, worked great.

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All I can say to you is that they work for me. Its like american express, I dont leave home without them.

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ka4yqi wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:57 pm
All I can say to you is that they work for me. Its like american express, I dont leave home without them.

:mrgreen:
Do you use them in your trike rear tires? How many ounces and what size are the tires?
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There is a chart here to show quantity of beads required per tire/rim size.

https://www.abcbalancingbeads.com/appli ... on%20chart

Balance beads are not recommended by the companies that sell them for tubed nor low profile tires, however, WingAdmin uses them in tubes and I use them in my low profile car tires. The one caviet of using with low profile is that the wheels/tires need to be balanced with hard weights first, then the beads added to ensure that balance remains perfect. Been using them in my Goldwing since I bought it. That would be ten years now.
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Viking wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:12 am
There is a chart here to show quantity of beads required per tire/rim size.

https://www.abcbalancingbeads.com/appli ... on%20chart

Balance beads are not recommended by the companies that sell them for tubed nor low profile tires, however, WingAdmin uses them in tubes and I use them in my low profile car tires. The one caviet of using with low profile is that the wheels/tires need to be balanced with hard weights first, then the beads added to ensure that balance remains perfect. Been using them in my Goldwing since I bought it. That would be ten years now.
Yes I am familiar with that information. What I was asking is what ka4yqi did?
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MikeB wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 pm
ka4yqi wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:57 pm
All I can say to you is that they work for me. Its like american express, I dont leave home without them.

:mrgreen:
Do you use them in your trike rear tires? How many ounces and what size are the tires?
Yes sir. 3 oz in each rear tire. Rear tires on the trike are 205-55r16 tires. Also have them in each tire on the kawasaki nomad and the tire on the little bunkhouse camper.

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ka4yqi wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:46 pm
MikeB wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:28 pm
ka4yqi wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:57 pm
All I can say to you is that they work for me. Its like american express, I dont leave home without them.

:mrgreen:
Do you use them in your trike rear tires? How many ounces and what size are the tires?
Yes sir. 3 oz in each rear tire. Rear tires on the trike are 205-55r16 tires. Also have them in each tire on the kawasaki nomad and the tire on the little bunkhouse camper.
That is good information to know and to pass on to other trike owners.
I'm always on two wheels so I don't have a knowledge base for trike wheels and tires.
I do use the balance beads in my Escapade trailer tires and Roll-A-Home trailer though. 4.80 x 12.00 6 Ply. Works as advertised.
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Viking wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:12 am
There is a chart here to show quantity of beads required per tire/rim size.

https://www.abcbalancingbeads.com/appli ... on%20chart

Balance beads are not recommended by the companies that sell them for tubed nor low profile tires, however, WingAdmin uses them in tubes and I use them in my low profile car tires. The one caviet of using with low profile is that the wheels/tires need to be balanced with hard weights first, then the beads added to ensure that balance remains perfect. Been using them in my Goldwing since I bought it. That would be ten years now.
I will tell this story not as a recommendation, but as an anecdote.

The tires on the Explorer I had for years would require balancing ALL THE TIME, every 2-3 months it seemed they needed to be balanced again.

Out of frustration, I tried putting 4 oz of beads in each tire, thinking that whatever the cause of the repeated imbalance was, the beads would help overcome it. That was a mistake...the vibration was so severe that the truck was undriveable above 30 mph.

Now out of desperation, I decided to take the original lead wheel weights off, and see how it worked with beads alone. I used a tire pencil to mark the position of the weights (in case I had to put them back on), then pulled off the weights.

The result: glass smooth ride, and the tires never went out of balance again.

So again, caveat emptor, but it worked for me in this instance.



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