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Looks interesting.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sen ... lar-helmet

Revzilla has it on sale for $180. I wonder what shape it is. Oval-Round

For that price it makes me highly suspicious of the quality of both the helmet and bluetooth since my SRL by itself is more than that whole thing.
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Is it Snell certified? Want to make sure you're protected if you have an accident.

Agree it sounds awfully inexpensive.

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Saw the same thing in an advertisement yesterday and wondered how safe it could actually be, and how good the Bluetooth would really be at that price point.
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After sleeping on it and 12 hours later I'm thinking that for the price it might not be too horrible to at least give it a try. I'm looking for a new helmet nor do I need one at this time or probably for another 2-3 years, but for someone that is it might be worth trying. You could even get two of these and still be less than the price of just my Neotec-II without the SRL. I'm just saying ...
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Whoever buys this it would be nice to hear about quality of both the helmet and the bluetooth....I've already got a modular helmet, an Evoline by Shark, which I simply love. Sena makes great bluetooth gear, I too am curious as to how their integrated helmets are.
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If you do get one please post a review.

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C-dub wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:06 pm
Looks interesting.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sen ... lar-helmet

Revzilla has it on sale for $180. I wonder what shape it is. Oval-Round

For that price it makes me highly suspicious of the quality of both the helmet and bluetooth since my SRL by itself is more than that whole thing.
Too bad they are out of stock on all sizes. I was going to order a white one and see, but they don't have one big enough for me (I wear a xxl/xxxl)
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Very few reviews out for it yet, it's just too new.

I was able to see that it is DOT certified, but NOT Snell.

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DOT certification is pretty much "Does it fit on someone's head, and does it have a chin strap?"

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Just because a helmet is D.O.T. doesn't necessarily mean it won't protect you. The problem with DOT testing is that they allow for "self certification", never a good idea. There have been numerous cases where fake Snell, as well as D.O.T., stickers have been found on uncertified helmets, and Snell hasn't been updated since 2015, although they have a 2020(in 2018) sticker-which was mostly administrative- to make some E.C.E. compliant. This is all confusing, but hopefully the link below will help clarify. The best program currently, IMHO, is that of the F.I.M.
If you can get past the ads, here's a good article:
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mterraci wrote:
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Is it Snell certified? Want to make sure you're protected if you have an accident.

Agree it sounds awfully inexpensive.
I have not seen a modular helmet that was Snell certified. Has anyone else seen one?
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The last I heard, Snell won't TEST a flip-up. They don't like the hinges, which are where one of their impact tests hits the helmet.

If you get a quality modular from a quality manufacturer, I think that's good enough even without the sticker.

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I still don't understand some of the testing methods.

These guys tested modular helmets, but all failed one specific test because they removed the chin bars to "simulate the worst possible scenario".

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.g ... v2-tag.pdf
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When we started using flip-ups, the insurance guys said they were considered a 3/4 helmet because of the chin bar, pointing out that many riders go around with the chin bars up.

This makes sense, and explains why they would be tested that way.

Myself, I have never cared -- I look for features, not stickers. Since flip-ups are generally built with the same materials, care of construction and suspension design as "rated" helmets, all that counts is the protection offered.

When I first got into big bikes, the only armor we wore was 1/2 helmets and riding boots -- I kind of miss the freedom and feel of the wind. But after all these years, I am NOT missing any vital parts, and ATGATT has helped me be able to say that.

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Interesting. My insurance carriers have never asked me what kind of gear I wear, let alone what style of helmet?
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This was at work. They were getting information from a lot of different places to set their rates. It's one thing when an individual rider is getting a quote, something entirely different when it's for a few dozen guys who are riding 10 hours a day (2 for commute, 8 on the job).

The nice thing is that all of the insurance guys (and gals) I ever dealt with at work (whether self-coverage or commercial vendors) were on the same side as we were -- the question was how to reduce risk to us while still providing the proper coverage.

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The #1 reason I wear a helmet is to protect my head in a crash. How helmets do that is by spreading out impact forces over time. An impact on the shell that might impart a lethal instantaneous 150G's can be spread across several milliseconds, lowering the instaneous impact forces your head is subjected to to a survivable level.

The way it does this is by absorbing some of the energy and spreading the impact forces both over area and time. It's the job of the EPS layer inside the helmet to do this.

The thicker this layer, the more energy can be absorbed, and the longer time it can spread the impact over, which means less energy (overall and peak) to your head.

If you look at a heat map of where impacts normally occur on helmets, it is in the upper front half, which makes sense. You're going forwards, that's typically what's going to hit things.

When you look at modular helmets, helmets with drop-down visors and sunshields, and similar devices, you see the hinges and mechanicals for these "features" inside the shell of the helmet - taking up the space of where that EPS layer would normally be. So you have maybe half of the thickness of EPS that would normally be there - in drop-down visors, that's in the front, in modular, that's around the hinges. That means impact in those regions is going to impart much higher impact forces to your head.

I much prefer having the EPS layer in there to protect my skull than to have whizz-bang gadgets and features in my helmet. I've been riding with Arai helmets exclusively for many, many years. Arai doesn't make modular helmets, or helmets with drop-down shields etc in them, because they know that adding those features compromises the main duty of the helmet: to provide protection from impact forces.

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I've never seen one fail to provide protection in conditions that any non-full-face would have done the job, and it's really handy to be able to push a button and have the sun visor disappear.

NOTHING beats a quality full-face.



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