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Hey yall,
I was wondering when it was a good time to replace tires on the gold wings? I know for cars that you can use the penny method to test tread depth and when it reaches blows Abe's head that its time to replace. Is that the same for bikes? Also, I recently ran over some motor oil while driving (Whole gallon spilt in the road in a roundabout and wasn't able to move out of the way) and now seem to have a slippry patch on the rear tire, how should I get rid of that? Thanks!


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Motorcycle tires are done when you get near the "wear bar" indicators on that particular tire, typically 1/32", or when they are over a certain age, many say 5 years. It's best to replace them before they get down that far, and IIRC a penny is 1/16" to Lincoln's head, which is a good indicator that it's getting time to order a new one. A quarter is about 1/8".

Because motorcycle tires can have hard centers and soft outer shoulders (the opposite of a Tootsie Roll Pop) you might find you're down to the wear bars on one of the "zones" with plenty of tread left in the other, but it's still time to retire them.

They don't explode if you reach the wear bars, I overused my last set and the shoulders were completely worn off, right down to having no tread left. :shock: But they didn't perform any differently than when they were new, they just made me extremely nervous once I realized how worn they were.
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I just replaced an Elite 4 that had the cords showing. I had been keeping a real good eye on it, and from still okay to thread showing took about 200 miles. What this told me is that Elite 4, for sure, wear faster at the end of their life. These tires have really weird wear bars within the tread pattern which have been evident for the last probably 4000 miles. Also, I only got about 8,000 miles from the rear, and it looks like the front is near the end as well. All the foregoing describes a specific tire, so, is not a generic answer to cover all tires. It does however, demonstrate that replacing tires a bit early is a good idea. If I had looked at the tire 200 miles back, planning on a thousand mile trip, I probably would have thought I was okay for that. I would not have been.
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In New York, a tire-whether a car or motorcycle -won't pass the annual inspection if it is less than 2/32". I've always replaced mine before it's flush with the wear bars. Keep in mind also, that the closer it gets to the wear bars, the faster the tires seem to wear. Or you could use the Lucky/Safe method.....How lucky/safe do you feel? :D
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Viking wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:15 am I just replaced an Elite 4 that had the cords showing. I had been keeping a real good eye on it, and from still okay to thread showing took about 200 miles. What this told me is that Elite 4, for sure, wear faster at the end of their life. These tires have really weird wear bars within the tread pattern which have been evident for the last probably 4000 miles. Also, I only got about 8,000 miles from the rear, and it looks like the front is near the end as well. All the foregoing describes a specific tire, so, is not a generic answer to cover all tires. It does however, demonstrate that replacing tires a bit early is a good idea. If I had looked at the tire 200 miles back, planning on a thousand mile trip, I probably would have thought I was okay for that. I would not have been.
Glad to hear you shared that experience, I thought I was being extremely negligent somehow by not noticing how worn the tires were, but I could have sworn I had checked them not that long before and they still had tread left.
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tamathumper wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am Glad to hear you shared that experience, I thought I was being extremely negligent somehow by not noticing how worn the tires were, but I could have sworn I had checked them not that long before and they still had tread left.
The best mileage I have gotten out of tires on this Goldwing GL1800 has been on Dunlop D250s which were what came originally on the bike. I have also used Avons and Dunlop Elite 3 and Elite 4. I cannot get D250 tires any more, but would still be using them if I could. I just decided to try a set of Shinko tires. I cannot do worse with them than with the Elite 4s. I seldom ride gravel, and then only if forced to for a detour. We do have some roads here that are called "tar and gravel" where they spread tar and then grade gravel over it. When the loose gravel all sluffs off to the shoulders, there is a rough hard surface that is like a poor quality asphalt. I am sure that it eats tires.
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IIRC I got over 15,000 miles on the rear Dunlop Elite 4, and the front is still on there with plenty of tread left. That was across the country and back twice, plus lots of local riding.
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tamathumper wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:24 pm IIRC I got over 15,000 miles on the rear Dunlop Elite 4, and the front is still on there with plenty of tread left. That was across the country and back twice, plus lots of local riding.
As I have been known to suggest, either you have much better roads in the U.S. of A. than we do in your underpopulated northern neighboring country, or they are sending us a different tire and calling it the same. I do admit to having replaced the pegs on my goldie twice so far, and need a fourth set, but it seems to be the center of the tires that are wearing out.
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the road surface definitely has a lot to do with how long a tire will last us,
add to that, each of us rides with a different Throttle Style...

I tend to be a slow and go type, letting the engine do most of the work, for braking down to about 35 mph then I apply brakes.

as for acceleration, I ease up to about 2500 RPM and then just tickle the clutch lever a tad and prepressure on the shifter lets the next gear slide right in.


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I was between 20-21 thousand miles on my first set of Elite 4's before changing them out. Just moderate riding.
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Billthebulldog wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:54 am Hey yall,
I was wondering when it was a good time to replace tires on the gold wings? I know for cars that you can use the penny method to test tread depth and when it reaches blows Abe's head that its time to replace. Is that the same for bikes? Also, I recently ran over some motor oil while driving (Whole gallon spilt in the road in a roundabout and wasn't able to move out of the way) and now seem to have a slippry patch on the rear tire, how should I get rid of that? Thanks!
Oil on the tires... Not good. If it is on new tires you are talking about??????? You can try some brake cleaner or steam clean them if you have a hotsy steam cleaner available. Otherwise if they are old tires replace them. Rubber hardens and gets slippery after 5 years and you should replace tires older than 5 years(see the date code on your tires and the How To article on reading the date code). Riding on wet surfaces on old tires is like playing Russian Roulette..... You wanna play???

Wear bars are on your tires for a purpose.
Cupping tires are another factor. If your tires are cupping within 3,000-8,000 miles you need to replace your steering bearings to tapered steering bearings, properly torqued with a torque wrench and special socket. This one spot too many wing owners fail miserably in cheaping out and blaming it on something else when all you have to do is put in good new steering bearings to get better life out of your tires.
Cheap tires will get you poor performance and tire life. Stinko tires are the worst you can get.

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Also check for delamination, scalloping and foreign object damage!

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Rule 1: If you look at your tires and think "Maybe I should replace them," then maybe you should replace them.

Rule 2: Check the production date. At 7 years, I really wouldn't ride them. At 5 years, IF they are in good shape, no sun-checking, cupping, damage, bubbles, excessive wear, etc, and in the garage when not on the road I would figure that this is their last season.

Rule 3: Sun checking is a NO GO. When a sun checked car tire lets go, it's an inconvenience. When a sun checked motorcycle tire lets go, it usually does it at highway speed, and wrecks your whole day.
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Air you keeping an eye on your air pressures? I run 37 front 41 rear. Also run the Centramatic Wheel Balancers, get a lot more miles that what you say you are getting, I do ride on good roads most of the time.
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I had previously posted about this after I found this tire but it bares repeating, CHECK YOUR TIRES! Don't be an idiot like I was and let tires like this sneak upon you. I was fortunate it didn't blow but I could almost see the air through that last layer of rubber.
That is an Elite 3 with 14.5k on it and it and it should never have gone that far but I thought that I was checking them frequently enough - not!
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captdecker wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:17 am Air you keeping an eye on your air pressures? I run 37 front 41 rear. Also run the Centramatic Wheel Balancers, get a lot more miles that what you say you are getting, I do ride on good roads most of the time.
37 in the front?? My 1500 handles like a truck at that pressure.
I run 41 in the Commander II on the front, and 38 in the Austone taxi tire on the rear.
Handles like a dream at those pressures.
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I'm riding a 06 GL1800 with e4's.
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Viking wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:07 pm
tamathumper wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:24 pm IIRC I got over 15,000 miles on the rear Dunlop Elite 4, and the front is still on there with plenty of tread left. That was across the country and back twice, plus lots of local riding.
As I have been known to suggest, either you have much better roads in the U.S. of A. than we do in your underpopulated northern neighboring country, or they are sending us a different tire and calling it the same. I do admit to having replaced the pegs on my goldie twice so far, and need a fourth set, but it seems to be the center of the tires that are wearing out.
I have always rode the same. Easy on the throttle. No popping clutch and slamming on it. Check pressures regular and keep proper pressure. But I hear ya about our roads here in Can maybe being different or something. I have to change out my back tire because of picking up drywall screw and having plug in it with 9000 kms on it. Like new. Front is getting down towards wear lines with 17,350 kms on it.


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