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Have a motorhome with a hydraulic lift on the back. I have six separate tie downs but am also considering adding a handle bar strap. Recommendations?


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The handlebar strap is your worst idea.....

Look in the How to section for tying down a Goldwing.
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I use special handlebar straps to help stabilize the bike from side to side, not to pull the suspension down, which is a really bad idea on Goldwings.

back in the dirt bike days, that was okay.

these are the ones I use, does not apply any twisting motion on the hand grips.

I bought the large size, gives me a lot of latitude for use on the 1800 or my little Piaggio scooter.

http://www.canyondancer.com/canyondancerbarharness2
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Thanks - my issue is the side by side since the bike can sway easily since it rides behind the coach.
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novatz wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:42 am Thanks - my issue is the side by side since the bike can sway easily since it rides behind the coach.
You don't have the wheel chock to hold the wheel solid??

https://hydralift-usa.com/wheel-chock/
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Without a picture of your RV lift any advice is moot. If your lift doesn't have tie down points wider than the bike you have a problem (if you are talking about one of your Goldwings). Handlebar tie downs at the outer ends are not recommended for a heavy bike.
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dingdong wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:47 pm Without a picture of your RV lift any advice is moot. If your lift doesn't have tie down points wider than the bike you have a problem (if you are talking about one of your Goldwings). Handlebar tie downs at the outer ends are not recommended for a heavy bike.
that advice is null and mute, for the intended use for the Canyon Dancer handlebar grips.

they plainly tell you, do NOT use in a Vertical situation, they are intended for Side to Side stabilizing, and for that purpose, they work Extremely Well....

a good Wheel Chock and straps over the lower Triple Tree are to be used to secure the bike in place, but it will NOT prevent it from swaying from side to side... been there, done that all too many times.

I have proof of that with my 1800 and my Piaggio MP3 scooter.
the MP3 scooters have dual wheels up front, and the suspension Locks Solid, keeping the scooter vertical.
the Canyon Dancers just prevent any heavy side to side motion, if the Toy Hauler heaves sideways over rough terrain..... and I have seen what happens, crap gets thrown from side to side, if not tied down.




that scooter is stable all by itself, if left alone on the ground.... it has a Rear Wheel locking brake to help prevent forward/backward movement.

The Canyon Dancer grips just help to ensure that the scooter stays put....

I put the 1800 in that Toy Hauler once, never again.... the garage is 14 inches too short, I had to place it at an angle, and even though, I had it strapped down hard with the Triple tree, it fell over.



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I'm with dingdong - handlebar cups are for scooters, and pics are required. ;)

I can only assume that 1,000 pounds slapping around on a hitch, transverse mounted 6-8 feet behind the closest axle is just bad news, and trying to limit that moment of inertia with the handlebars is just going to break something, especially if there's nothing fore and aft of the bike to tie down to?

I can't imagine a single hitch taking that load - it would have to be a triple Class III perhaps?
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for a Motor home, you need a 3 point hitch for bikes.

the center receiver of course, and two additional receiver hitches.

I have seen quite a few of those, and they are Stable.
Some are hydraulically operated.
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Front wheel stabilize is not the issue. Did have a wheel chock - took it off. The actual ramp itself is sufficiently narrow (rear wheel barely fits in) to keep the front wheel in line. The lift isn't really wide enough to have angles to secure properly.

I have had the wing and the hydralift on two separate coaches for the past 10 years, probably 60-70k miles on the coach. We travel 4-6 months/year staying at a resort for a couple of weeks, riding, load the bike again, go someplace else - 20k miles/year.

Just looking for ideas.
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Wow. Here's a thread about the same thing, and the loads placed on the rear axle (and lift on the front) from having 1,000 extra pounds in the air (plus the weight of the lift, I suppose)? Sure is a cool piece of engineering, but I would want more than those Harbor Freight straps holding it in! But now I kinda want one.

https://www.winnieowners.com/forums/f26 ... post922468



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I do NOT trust HF straps period anymore.
I have had too many of them come loose in transient.
The springs that hold the latch mechanism come out the very first time I use them, they end up in the trash.
I bought the "top rated" straps of which I have forgotten the name, they had a "Single spring" to hold the latch mechanism, and it flew away to Tim Buk Too the first time I used them.... Wasted $40 on straps.

I now buy all of my straps from Tractor Supply, I get their good ones, not one of them has ever lost a latching mechanism, nor has the straps frayed and loosened up.

the wheel chocks, IMO, are only good for one thing.
To hold the bike Temporarily until I can get straps on the Triple tree and cinch down the forks enough that the bike is secure.

I then use the Canyon Dancers on the hand grips to supply "side to side" stability.
No straps on the Frame, ever!!! the rear end needs to ride on the bike's suspension, that is what it is made for.

I use a single strap tied around the rear wheel to each side of the Trailer.



What you can't see in that picture, is the front wheels ( 2 of them ) on the scooter are secured with a strap wrapped around the Vertical Front wheel chocks, ( made as part of the trailer ).


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