Any sidecar guys? Have you regretted it?


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Any sidecar guys? Have you regretted it?

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Just thought I'd share my latest wild hair with you guy's,,,lol. Please share pics of your rig if you have one. Anyone regretted doing it and wished they hadn't spent the money?

I've been rather involved the last several months with my motorcycle and trailer. Mostly resorting the trailer getting it ready for the road. I was considering setting it up to haul my pup "Wilton". He loves going everywhere with me in the truck. But I haven't had him on the bike yet. And I haven't rode much this year because I feel so bad for leaving him at home. :roll:

So a sidecar popped up on marketplace for FREE!! The race was on to go get it as the gal said she gave the address to 4 other people. I tried to buy it but she said they were not taking money for it. I even offered her $100. She said it was her elderly fathers, just come get it. I can't believe I was the first one there. I made quite the haul with a bunch of other stuff they had just put to the curb.

So anyway. Here is the sidecar. But unfortunately it's made for a scooter and way to small for my Goldwing.




Anyone with a sidecar pull a trailer also?



Might have to change his name to "Sidecar Willy". :lol:



So now I found a great deal on a proper sidecar for the wing. So I listed the free sidecar for just enough to pay for the new hack, and go get it. I feel bad about profiting this much off of something I got for free. Truthfully I didn't think I would be able to get near as much as I did. I did say Thank You Lord!! But I'm going to now call this one my FREE sidecar,,,lol. I have to go on a major road trip to get it. The color is a shade off. But dogs don't see color anyway. Wilton says "Ya dad. Let's go get me a hack"



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first, you were right on moving on from it. that sidecar is way too light for the wing. as for the other one, I had one just like it attached to a 1999 Concours 1000. it was very well suited based on weight and power. I've seen a number of GWs with this similar setup.

the expensive part is the mounting setup. I had mine custom made by DMC Sidecars in Washington state. it was about 1000 for the setup. I had mine professionally installed, but that only cost me about 400, so decided to have them do it rather than doing it myself. certainly possible to do it yourself, just takes a little planning/thinking. Mine included electrical leveler which allowed adjustment for extra weight or road crowning. I also refabricated/built a leading link front end for the bike. this helps immensely with ease of steering.

Driving a sidecar is a horse of a different color. it's something you have to get used to. you have to accept that it's going to be different and be willing to live with that, or you will hate it and eventually give up.

You will lost a significant amount of fuel mileage. perhaps as low as 25 MPH on a wing (based on mine getting about 32 these days). some people mount auxilliary tanks in them to make up for the lost fuel mileage.

As for a trailer, I pulled one with my rig. again, fuel mileage drops, but it was stable and managable. really no difference to me than pulling a trailer behind a bike in general.

If you have more questions I'd be happy to provide info. you can also go to ADVRider forum. they have a sub-section for hacks. lots of good guys and good info there.
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pics of the rig. my granddaughter loved riding in it.
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NCDave nice Connie! Ive got an 03 in the garage in Red and Black. I hear the shades of reds are the fastest colors.
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You might consider a used Ural sidecar rig. They are a proven combination that works well. It could be an expensive proposition to attach a car to bike and get it to drive well. Piloting a sidecar is much different than two wheels but not difficult. I have an 83 gl1100 and a 2013 Ural, love them both. My black lab likes to ride also.
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ncdave wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:43 pm pics of the rig. my granddaughter loved riding in it.

Very nice!! That's my favorite color too. ;)
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Well Wilton likes it,,,lol.



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The Goldwing is a great sidecar tug, I ride mine all year round. Once you’ve got the hang of riding it I’m sure you’ll love it. You do need a chair with a bit of weight for a Goldwing but your spoilt for choice your side of the pond. If you fit a sidecar it’s best the alter the fork trail otherwise the steering is very heavy and more prone to handle bar shake. I fitted an Easi-Steer triple tree kit, expensive over here because of import duty and UK tax but I think the kit was about $450 initially.

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Sidcar wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:28 am The Goldwing is a great sidecar tug, I ride mine all year round. Once you’ve got the hang of riding it I’m sure you’ll love it. You do need a chair with a bit of weight for a Goldwing but your spoilt for choice your side of the pond. If you fit a sidecar it’s best the alter the fork trail otherwise the steering is very heavy and more prone to handle bar shake. I fitted an Easi-Steer triple tree kit, expensive over here because of import duty and UK tax but I think the kit was about $450 initially.

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Nice looking set up. But ummm. You put the sidecar on the wrong side,,,lol.
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Q-Cal, smart move to ditch that tiny sidecar for one more suited for a Wing. Getting your new rig sorted can be a challenge, but there are people here and on the sidecar sites more than willing to help you. All you have to do is ask.

When I was planning a 48 State Iron Butt ride, I knew a Gold Wing would be the right bike for the task. Bought a GL1500 with a sidecar similar to yours. After sorting out the previous owner's mechanical and electrical mistakes, that rig carried me through all 48 states in 9 1/2 days. Never missed a beat, never let me down.

Briefly went back to a dual sport BMW sidecar rig for a few years, but now riding a 2018 GL1800 DCT with a Hannigan sidecar. After 12 different sidecars in 14 years of piloting rigs, the DCT is the best rig I have owned.

Cal, seeing you are in the Mid-West, try to make the 2023 USCA Rally next June 22-25th, near Spirit Lake, Iowa. You will see a variety of Wings with sidecars there, as well as hundreds of other sidecar set ups. These rallies are the perfect place to pick the brains of more experienced sidecar owners, plus find friends who share a common interest.

p.s. Dogs are welcome at these rallies. Some years they have a Pet Parade showing off dogs in sidecars.
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I'm on my second sidecar in 35 some years, my first was a Hitch Hiker on my 85 LTD Wing and then the current one is a CSC FSIII dual seater on my 2nd 99 Wing, with a Tag A Long (modified) trailer for our trips from Chicago to Florida and back each year, I don't think my wife could live without it lol...As far as the regrets, none whatsoever! Still miss the freedom of dragging the running boards in the mountains but Love everything else about it.

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CCjon wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:35 am Q-Cal, smart move to ditch that tiny sidecar for one more suited for a Wing. Getting your new rig sorted can be a challenge, but there are people here and on the sidecar sites more than willing to help you. All you have to do is ask.

When I was planning a 48 State Iron Butt ride, I knew a Gold Wing would be the right bike for the task. Bought a GL1500 with a sidecar similar to yours. After sorting out the previous owner's mechanical and electrical mistakes, that rig carried me through all 48 states in 9 1/2 days. Never missed a beat, never let me down.

Briefly went back to a dual sport BMW sidecar rig for a few years, but now riding a 2018 GL1800 DCT with a Hannigan sidecar. After 12 different sidecars in 14 years of piloting rigs, the DCT is the best rig I have owned.

Cal, seeing you are in the Mid-West, try to make the 2023 USCA Rally next June 22-25th, near Spirit Lake, Iowa. You will see a variety of Wings with sidecars there, as well as hundreds of other sidecar set ups. These rallies are the perfect place to pick the brains of more experienced sidecar owners, plus find friends who share a common interest.

p.s. Dogs are welcome at these rallies. Some years they have a Pet Parade showing off dogs in sidecars.
I think I recognize you name from over on the sidecar forum. I have a post going over there about my build.

And 48 states in 9-1/2 is pretty impressive. My big plan in life is to travel the country like that. I'm certainly going to try and attend the rally.
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SIDECARRICH wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:45 am I'm on my second sidecar in 35 some years, my first was a Hitch Hiker on my 85 LTD Wing and then the current one is a CSC FSIII dual seater on my 2nd 99 Wing, with a Tag A Long (modified) trailer for our trips from Chicago to Florida and back each year, I don't think my wife could live without it lol...As far as the regrets, none whatsoever! Still miss the freedom of dragging the running boards in the mountains but Love everything else about it.
As far as towing the trailer goes, did you just use the bikes hitch, or have a hitch in between the bike and sidecar? What was modified on the trailer?

I won't miss dragging the floorboards cause I never done it,,,lol.

Since you have a 1500 and a CSC,,, did you see my other thread?

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Sidcar wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:28 am The Goldwing is a great sidecar tug, I ride mine all year round. Once you’ve got the hang of riding it I’m sure you’ll love it. You do need a chair with a bit of weight for a Goldwing but your spoilt for choice your side of the pond. If you fit a sidecar it’s best the alter the fork trail otherwise the steering is very heavy and more prone to handle bar shake. I fitted an Easi-Steer triple tree kit, expensive over here because of import duty and UK tax but I think the kit was about $450 initially.

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How is the fork trail altered?
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I made my hitch and receiver out of 2-inch steel tubing, a little overboard but does the job, then I can use any car/truck hitch, I also have it running down the middle between the hack and bike. drop me an email and I will send pix sidecarrich@gmail.com

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The Eezy-Steer triple trees alter the angle of the fork legs, in my case by four degrees. Doesn’t sound much but makes a lot of difference. Usually described as “like having power steering”.
I got mine are Hawg Halters Raked Trike Triple Tree EZ Steer kit from Custom Performance Inc, 154 Cooper Road, Unit 1002, West Berlin, NJ 08091.
Hope this helps

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Ah triple tree replacement. Curious what the set up looked like. I will check out their web site.
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Sidecars are different and lots of fun. I first got into sidecars in the 1980's because of my kids. First was a Guzzi/Ural rig, then a Kaw 1300/Vetter rig. Kids grew up and I went back to two wheels again. Years later my wife could no longer ride her Goldwing because of health reasons so we ended up selling both our bikes and got into sidecars again. We purchased a used 2003 Goldwing/Escort rig, and rode it home from Illinois.
Our dog loves riding in both cars and sidecars. When we are getting ready to ride, Pennie (dog) is in the rig first, making a nest before my wife can tell her to move over. Dogs love sidecars.


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I would suggest contacting Mark at Florida Sidecar Products if you haven't already. http://floridasidecarproducts.com/

He has a wide selection of NOS parts for California Sidecar and others. He also has plenty of mounts and such. I've purchased a few bits and pieces for my Friendship III from him.


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