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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by littlebeaver » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:38 pm



I seem to like these beads ..First timer too..



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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by Possum51 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:43 pm

Oldbear wrote:
Possum51 wrote:about to replace the tires on my GL1200 and I know this may sound silly, but the lead weights that are already on the rims, after installing the dyna beads, do I leave the old weights on or remove them from the rim?
Take them off and clean up the residue. You'll never need them with the beads
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by mothership » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:46 pm

I am thinking of trying Dyna Beads Good idea about shooting air through the tube. How about getting a longer tube so you can shoot more or all the beads at once?

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by NKYWinger » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:55 pm

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slick idea! I think I'll do that when I add the beads to the tires on the trailer I'm building...
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by seabeechief » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:00 pm

Idea! How about drilling a small (1/4" - 3/8"?) hole in the BOTTOM of the bottle, then insert the air gun in the hole and shoot the entire bottle of dyna beads in with short bursts of air.

If someone trys this before I need new tires, let us know how it works. If not, I will try it when I install new tires in few months.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by Modersical » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:58 pm

Pardon me, if I missed it . . . I think I have read most of the posts in this thread . . . , but, given EPA Standards, and all in places like California, there seem to be alternatives needed to balance tires without using lead.

I have heard nothing but good stuff about Dyna Beads, except ignorant comments from shops that won't use because of supposed product liability . . . You know . . . Things like, they don't put them in in the factory, and there are no OEM/factory specs for using. Anyway, you mention wet gooey stuff, but do not address its use really.

What is wrong with using a good, quality tire sealant that flows inside the tire to serve the same balancing function, but also imparts sealant qualities?

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by Oldbear » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:20 pm

mothership wrote:I am thinking of trying Dyna Beads Good idea about shooting air through the tube. How about getting a longer tube so you can shoot more or all the beads at once?
You don't want too much air shot in, or it could be enough to blast some beads out.
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by bobberwing » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:13 am

I have had them on my 1800 wing and on my drz400 dual sport. They work fine for me however balancing with weights seems just as good. One thing about tube type tires is it is very easy to install beads. You put them in tube before placing tube in tire.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by Oldbear » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:58 pm

bobberwing wrote:I have had them on my 1800 wing and on my drz400 dual sport. They work fine for me however balancing with weights seems just as good. One thing about tube type tires is it is very easy to install beads. You put them in tube before placing tube in tire.
The weights are a static balance - they are balanced as close as the tech that put them on got them and are balanced at the time they are put on. The beads are dynamic, they change the balance as needed. I've been putting them in everything with a motor in it... If I can just find the right amount for my wheel barrel...
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by crock4 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:39 pm

Great post WingAdmin. I have some ordered some, and will try your method. Sure looks better than vibrating, or tapping.
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by littlebeaver » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:52 pm

As long as they get into the tire is all that matters..Using air pressure is ideal..good video..

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by MDRanger » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:39 pm

I used an extra long tube that would hold the entire 2oz. One good shot of air in the top of the tube and the entire 2oz. were injected in to the tire. :D

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by bubbave3 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:16 pm

loved the video... l have 1982 wing with a Tow Pac trike kit.... there is some vibration at 50 to 60 mph (cruising speed) for my area here in Canad side roads. I was surprised to read it is only 2 ounces per tire for the bike. I am going to source out the beads here and hopefully find them... my question is regarding the trike tires as they are 480/12 rims and tires, sorta like the trailer tire on a smaller utility trailer but aluminum rims. I am hoping to find out how many ounces per wheel there and then as l type this l am thinking there must be a chart somewhere or even included when buying the beads??.. That being said , l am also going to install the beads in our Chevy Cobalt as l suspect the winter rims and tires are not well balanced and any help the beads can offer the car will be great as well... Thank you again for the info and presentation... you have no idea how close l was to buying and installing another product called Ride On...

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by 1grouch2u » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:35 pm

There are charts for them on the eBay sites that sell 'em. -And having too much is better than not enough, so don't be afraid to go heavy with them- correct me if I'm wrong, but seems to be the case. 8-)

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by RedBear » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:16 pm

I have an internal TPMS system mounted inside the tire with a big hose clamp that goes all the way around the rim. Does that have any affect on using dyna beads or will dyna beads affect the TPMS? Thanks
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:27 pm

RedBear wrote:I have an internal TPMS system mounted inside the tire with a big hose clamp that goes all the way around the rim. Does that have any affect on using dyna beads or will dyna beads affect the TPMS? Thanks
It will work fine, and won't affect the TPMS.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by NKYWinger » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:09 am

WingAdmin wrote:

$9 at Cyclemax:

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/chrome_ ... ems/124629
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I like them for using with TPMS sensors, because they're solid and won't bend/crack like the OEM stems.
I was thinking of installing these as well, BUT....on an 1100 there is no brace to hold the stem when I add the TPMS system.....I'm thinking I need to make a small brace out of aluminum to keep the stem in place when I screw the TPMS caps on; centrifugal force would break/bend the stem without that ....whatcha think?
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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by seabeechief » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:45 am

Oldbear wrote:
mothership wrote:I am thinking of trying Dyna Beads Good idea about shooting air through the tube. How about getting a longer tube so you can shoot more or all the beads at once?
You don't want too much air shot in, or it could be enough to blast some beads out.
Oldbear, here is what I finally did. I have an electric "etching" tool that has a vibrating tip on it for etching into metal. I attached the tube and bottle to the tire, turned on the etching tool, and laid the tip against the outside of the tube. It vibrated the little dyna beads into the tire quickly and easily.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:18 am

NKYWinger wrote: I was thinking of installing these as well, BUT....on an 1100 there is no brace to hold the stem when I add the TPMS system.....I'm thinking I need to make a small brace out of aluminum to keep the stem in place when I screw the TPMS caps on; centrifugal force would break/bend the stem without that ....whatcha think?
I agree. The little brace on the 1500 isn't really needed on the metal angled stem, but because I put the sensors on there, I put the braces on anyway, just to support them against the centrifugal (actually centripetal) force.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by carlrf » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:38 pm

OK, got sucked in by the hype! Ordered some beads. This should be interesting. :?

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by DetroitWingnut » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:06 am

I just bought new tires for my 1980 Gl1100. I am going to use Dyna Beads. What do you recommend to lube tire during install? Should I purchase and install angled valve stems? Why or why not? Would I even be able to find some that fits my ride?

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:58 pm

DetroitWingnut wrote:I just bought new tires for my 1980 Gl1100. I am going to use Dyna Beads. What do you recommend to lube tire during install? Should I purchase and install angled valve stems? Why or why not? Would I even be able to find some that fits my ride?
When using manual tire irons, I use Armor All or STP "Son of a Gun" - it goes on wet but dries and stays relatively slippery.

If you're using a tire mounting machine, you can't get away with that - it's not slippery enough. So I use the regular bead lubricant, but I put it on very sparingly, only on the bead, and make sure it doesn't get on the inside of the rim or tire, where it might stick to the beads.

The 1100 doesn't have supports for angled valve stems like the 1500 and 1800 do, so I don't know that I would be too eager to try to install them.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by seabeechief » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:52 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
DetroitWingnut wrote:I just bought new tires for my 1980 Gl1100. I am going to use Dyna Beads. What do you recommend to lube tire during install? Should I purchase and install angled valve stems? Why or why not? Would I even be able to find some that fits my ride?
When using manual tire irons, I use Armor All or STP "Son of a Gun" - it goes on wet but dries and stays relatively slippery.

If you're using a tire mounting machine, you can't get away with that - it's not slippery enough. So I use the regular bead lubricant, but I put it on very sparingly, only on the bead, and make sure it doesn't get on the inside of the rim or tire, where it might stick to the beads.

The 1100 doesn't have supports for angled valve stems like the 1500 and 1800 do, so I don't know that I would be too eager to try to install them.
This website has aluminum valve stems that look very interesting. You WILL have to grind off the supports on GL1800 wheels, but the good news is you can then point the stems to the opposite side of the kick stand. Then you can check the air in your tires without laying down. The bad news is they are a little expensive, but supposedly a one time purchase. I planning on using them when I go darkside, AFTER I have my wheels powder coated.

http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/tire_valves/index.htm

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:23 am

I just put new tires on my GL1500. The old tires (Avon Venoms) had 12,000 miles on them, both were worn out. These are the first tires I took off my bike that had Dyna Beads in them for their entire life, so I thought I would post some pictures of what they looked like inside.

The front tire beads did not pick up much rubber. They did certainly wear away some of the inside of the tire, which is present throughout the tire as black dust.

Front tire beads
Front tire beads

The fine black dust is everywhere inside the tire. You can see in this picture where the beads have worn the inside of the tire smooth in the center part of the tire, whereas on the outer part the factory molding ridges are still present.

Front tire beads with interior tire
Front tire beads with interior tire

The rear tire did the same thing, however the beads themselves picked up a lot of the powder and were coated in rubber. I don't know why the rear did this and not the front. You can see the wear on the inside of the tire here as well:

Rear wheel beads
Rear wheel beads

A close-up of the beads that had become coated in rubber:

Rear wheel beads closeup
Rear wheel beads closeup

The wear on the inside of the tire was not enough that I have any worry at all. Technically I could have sucked the beads out of the tires and put them into the new tires. However, instead I am trying a new, different bead type in the new tires, Counteract balancing beads. Instead of the ceramic Dyna Beads, these are coated glass beads. I'll have a review and report on them soon.

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Re: How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

Post by Oldbear » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:05 am

Did you take a picture of the tires before installing them? (Both before the Dynabeads and the glass beads). I wonder how much of that dust is from the mold lines and such inside a tire. Next tire switch I'll try to take some before pictures. You probably lost less than a 1/32" - much like light sanding dust - the inside of your tire is now smoothed and more aerodynamic now... Better fuel mileage :D And I'm all over the glass beads if it turns my tires green - like the website... :lol:


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