How to install Dyna Beads in your tires

[NVSB4]

Interesting option.
Site says 1 oz / 12# tire weight, anyone know how much E3s weigh?

Stainless, bigger & heavier -
I can see the stainless being a plus for lasting longer and not breaking down.
Bigger to keep from clogging air valves, maybe, but I would think smaller would spread more evenly especially since they are heavier and therefore would have less put in.

I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

[wingman12]

the stainless are also very small. you need a lot of these to make one ounce. Please do not in vision them as being like ball bearings or even b b's. They about the size of a #2 led pencil lead. some are smaller

[wingman12]

I tried to find out the wt of the E3's my self with no luck, so I put in 2 oz. still had high speed bounce, took the tires and rims off and back to the dealer to remove the beads and add weights, they added over 2 oz weights to both front and rear. Have been test riding with weights and all is well at 100 plus, now I will add 2.5 oz beads and remove the weights and test the difference. I will let you know the results in a few days. (assuming we don't get any more rain) at least we are not getting the rain like you folks in TX are getting.

[Oldbear]

I tried to find out the wt of the E3's my self with no luck, so I put in 2 oz. still had high speed bounce, took the tires and rims off and back to the dealer to remove the beads and add weights, they added over 2 oz weights to both front and rear. Have been test riding with weights and all is well at 100 plus, now I will add 2.5 oz beads and remove the weights and test the difference. I will let you know the results in a few days. (assuming we don't get any more rain) at least we are not getting the rain like you folks in TX are getting.

I used 3oz in the front and rear on my 83. I used 6oz per tire on my 05 Malibu.

[wingman12]

Thanks oldbear I will keep that in mind when I began the switch over to to Beads. I started using these on my company over the road trucks and could not believe the improvement in tire life. Drivers also noticed handling and considerable quieter and smoother ride.

[wingman12]

good evening NVSB4 . I had to much time on my hands today so I collected a few of the used beads and put 20 of them inside standard swingline staple. This will give you some
idea of their size and shape. no static either.

[WingAdmin]

the main down side to the dyna beads are that they are glass, being glass as they tumble around they start to break apart into very fine glass dust. I have found the best balancing beads are made out of stainless steel and can be used over and over again and never break apart. I found these from a company called Callies's Kustoms
http://www.callieskustoms.com. They recommend 1 oz per 10 lbs of tire. 20oz bag for $27.00 plud shipping. All lead weight have to be removed. a simple magnet will pick up the beads so you can put in new tires when installed. works wonders. Ride safe my friends.

That was not my experience. My last tire, after 7,500 miles, showed a small amount of fine black rubber dust worn from the inside of the tire, but no evidence of worn glass at all, and the beads were completely intact:

Beads after 7,500 milees

[NVSB4]

I was putting a Cyclemax order together the other day after reading through this thread.
I had a little way to go to reach the $199 free shipping point, (something my wife thinks is all too convenient) so I added the Counteract beads to the order.
I should get them today or tomorrow and install when I can.

[NVSB4]

OK, now I have a different question.
I got the Counteract beads and started looking..I don't have any weights on my rims.

Is there a way to check and see if they already have some sort of interior balancing without removing the tires?
The tires look fairly new, so it's going to be a while before they need replacing.
I also don't feel any problem with the balance, just wanted to reach optimum.

[WingAdmin]

OK, now I have a different question.
I got the Counteract beads and started looking..I don't have any weights on my rims.

Is there a way to check and see if they already have some sort of interior balancing without removing the tires?
The tires look fairly new, so it's going to be a while before they need replacing.
I also don't feel any problem with the balance, just wanted to reach optimum.

You should not have weights on your wheels when you have beads in your tires, which I think you know.

The easiest way to tell if you already have beads inside your tire is to listen for them. Put your bike on the center stand, and rotate the rear wheel slowly by hand. You'll hear the beads hiss as they slide along inside the tire - it's a very distinctive noise.

If you have Ride-On or other liquid sealant/balancer in your tire, you can try to let air out and see if you get sealant as well - other than that, there's not really a good way other than breaking the bead and looking inside.

[monty]

Hi, Dyna Beads sound good, as I am about to fit new tyres.
My question is, where can I obtain these beads and are they available in Australia.
Regards Monty

[WingAdmin]

Hi, Dyna Beads sound good, as I am about to fit new tyres.
My question is, where can I obtain these beads and are they available in Australia.
Regards Monty

A very similar product is available from Cyclemax, and they ship worldwide:

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/counter ... ads/173318

I currently have these beads in my GL1500.

[petesgoldwing]

Can you use the beads if you have wheel weights on already on wheel? Like both at same time?

[wingman12]

My understanding is you should not have both, if you install beads you need to remove the weights. The weights remain stationary where the beads move around and balance each time you start moving, this adjusts to the daily wear on your tires.

[Oldbear]

Can you use the beads if you have wheel weights on already on wheel? Like both at same time?

You don't need the external weights with the internal beads. I'm running them in the bike, car and truck without the add on weights. Take the weights off - it makes the wheel look much nicer. The newly powdered Cragar five stars (for my Olds) will look nicer without lead stuck on them...

[WingAdmin]

Can you use the beads if you have wheel weights on already on wheel? Like both at same time?

You don't need the external weights with the internal beads. I'm running them in the bike, car and truck without the add on weights. Take the weights off - it makes the wheel look much nicer. The newly powdered Cragar five stars (for my Olds) will look nicer without lead stuck on them...

As he said, no wheel weights needed. The only thing the beads won't fix is side-to-side imbalances in auto tires (don't have this problem on relatively narrow bike tires). If the spin balancer on your auto tires shows that it needs a lot more weight on the outside of the wheel than the inside (or vice versa), then you may need to leave some weights on either the inside or outside (as required) to fix the lateral imbalance.

I had to do this on one of the tires on my truck. I then installed the beads in all four tires. The weights on the one tire fixed the lateral imbalance, and the beads fixed the dynamic balance. The bonus is that you never need to get the wheels re-balanced as they wear, the beads just adjust themselves as wear occurs.

[Dave70]

DYNA BEADS work excellent, well worth using especially when your installer doesn't have a dynamic balancer. It is however, a slow single file march of those little beads out of the bottle and thru the valve stem. Tapping helps but gets tiring.

My solution is to use a set of home electric barber shears! Turn them on (to get the vibration) and put the side of the blades next to the spout or on the side of the valve stem. Then just watch those little critters march into your tire. Dave70

[dan1122]

does it matter if you a a tpms?

[Oldbear]

You might not be able to get the beads in through the stem. You would have unbead the tire. But it should work. The beads sit on the "outside" of the inside of the tire. The sensors are at the rim.

[NKYWinger]

does it matter if you a a tpms?

Dunno - mine is an '03 GL1800 without TPMS, but , as long as the beads can pass thru, it shouldn't be a problem.

BTW, in regards to slooooow filling, just fill up the tube and give it a small shot of air - works super quick! I think there is a video of this procedure...I used it and it took less time to get the beads in than to write this about it.
2 oz. in front, 3 oz. in rear (car tire).

[FM-USA]

DYNA BEADS do's and don'ts...
2.) If you are using PVC sewer pipe inside your tires as some sort of bead lock / run flat… DO NOT use the tire balance beads.

Has the earmarks of a Jeff Foxworthy line.

[spiralout]

DYNA BEADS do's and don'ts...
2.) If you are using PVC sewer pipe inside your tires as some sort of bead lock / run flat… DO NOT use the tire balance beads.

Has the earmarks of a Jeff Foxworthy line.

What a great thread bump

[VegasVic]

Can dyna beads be used with the TPMS VALVE STEMS?

[FM-USA]

Interesting option.
Site says 1 oz / 12# tire weight, anyone know how much E3s weigh?

Stainless, bigger & heavier -
I can see the stainless being a plus for lasting longer and not breaking down.
Bigger to keep from clogging air valves, maybe, but I would think smaller would spread more evenly especially since they are heavier and therefore would have less put in.

I'M SO CONFUSED!!!

E3 front weighs about 14#, rear about 22# [all approximate but close]
IF memory serve, front gets 1.5 to 2.5oz, rear 2.5 to 4oz.

I inserted via the all metal 90 degree valve stem with dynabeads, never clogged.
Filling and check my tires around the 2 to 4PM position.

I understand the larger beads you can hear rattling around at slower speeds. Could be a good thing if you like hearing it.

INTERESTING THOUGHT:
Pros / Cons on mixing different bead sizes?
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[dingdong]

I understand the larger beads you can hear rattling around at slower speeds. Could be a good thing if you like hearing it.

INTERESTING THOUGHT:
Pros / Cons on mixing different bead sizes?
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Might be a good thing, Two part harmony.