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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:02 pm



My side lights where already lighted. The lowers where screwed together, the uppers involved small screw drivers, sharp exacto knife, and bandages. Well no bandages, but it was close a couple times. On those, I used a hole punch to access the connectors on the back of the LED's.



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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by wingbug » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:20 pm

Lowers being screwed together would have been nice. Mine were held together by something resembling hot glue or silicone which had hardened over the years. On a positive note, the back side of mine were black plastic, and doing a little dremel work was fairly easy. I was down to having only one light on left and 2 on the right on the uppers, so I replaced those wedge bulbs and now it's better than it was. Still want to convert those to LED, and probably will over next winter.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:14 am

I only had 2 lights that where screwed together. The rest where held together with that silicon/rubber cement/goo. I got through those with 2 small screw drivers and a sharp razor blade. I used a clear silicon to seal them back up. To make the lights Dual Purpose, I opened did some reverse engineering of an aftermarket part. $7 each, would be almost $100. I bought the parts, wire, and Silicone for under $20.


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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by OlsonBW » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:49 pm

Just wondering if anyone, since the last update, has found a way to replace the regular bulbs with nondestructive LEDs. I don't mind if I have to solder in resisters as long as it is plug and play (pray?) after that.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:35 pm

Are you wanting to use LED's in the sockets? You will want to make sure that the LED is emitting light in the correct direction. While they provide plenty of light, the reflected light is minimal. You would probably need a tower type bulb. I don't recall the bulb#, but with it we can see what's out there.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by OlsonBW » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:40 pm

Richman2000 wrote:Are you wanting to use LED's in the sockets? You will want to make sure that the LED is emitting light in the correct direction. While they provide plenty of light, the reflected light is minimal. You would probably need a tower type bulb. I don't recall the bulb#, but with it we can see what's out there.

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Yes, that's what I'm hoping for. While I'm not new to the "idea" of LED lights and have used products with them for years/decades, I'm not so familiar with the specs on them but am starting from scratch. I'm not against putting in the work to find them. Part of it is knowing what specs to look for, like the size of the whole, how tall it can be, etc.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:52 am

The search was pretty easy. The bulb is a Type 194. I found this http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo ... -base/199/

and this, http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo ... -base/206/

These are Red LED's. All you would need to do is swap them out with the old bulbs. "I do suggest confirming the bulb type before you ordering them." That's my official disclaimer.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by OlsonBW » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:01 pm

Richman2000 wrote:The search was pretty easy. The bulb is a Type 194. I found this http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo ... -base/199/

and this, http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo ... -base/206/

These are Red LED's. All you would need to do is swap them out with the old bulbs. "I do suggest confirming the bulb type before you ordering them." That's my official disclaimer.

Ride Safe,
Rich
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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by OnPapasWing » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:31 pm

Wingadmin, it looks like it's been almost two years since yo9u did the LED upgrade. Any issues or concerns? Anything you would do differently, with the exception of what was stated in the original post (using black hot glue, etc.)?

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:41 pm

OnPapasWing wrote:Wingadmin, it looks like it's been almost two years since yo9u did the LED upgrade. Any issues or concerns? Anything you would do differently, with the exception of what was stated in the original post (using black hot glue, etc.)?
It has held up, and in fact I finished redoing ALL of the lights in the rear using the same basic method not too long ago. I'll post pictures etc. soon.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by EWillard1958 » Fri May 15, 2015 10:34 pm

So. I have relocated from Cajun country to WV to finish my mining career. I have absolutely no place to work on anything. Would you rebuild all of my factory lights to led lights for a nice tip$ of coarse?? I do wish I had my garage for use here!!' E Willard

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Sat May 16, 2015 10:14 am

I've been commuting 200 miles a day for the past year. I would love to work on a project, but I have no time. As for needing space to do this, I did my lights 1 at a time, and my Workbench was an Ice Chest.

Good luck on your project.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by cwgreen1938 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:04 pm

Richman 2000: I have a question about the resistor and two diodes that you showed when you talked about reverse engineering, was their purpose to load the circuit where the flashers would work and if so could you explain how the diodes are polarity wise and how that little circuit accomplishes its job?
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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:26 pm

Hi CW, welcome to the group. I'm not an electrician, so my terms may be a bit inaccurate. The resistors create the dimmer running lights. When the current passes through them, the lights are not as bright. When you use the brakes or turn signals, the lights receive the full current. That makes them brighten up. The diode are like check valves so the current doesn't flow back into the system. It causes issues when that happens.

You will still need to to add resistors to eliminate hyper flashing.

I hope this helps, ride safe,
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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by cwgreen1938 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:36 pm

Richman2000 wrote:Hi CW, welcome to the group. I'm not an electrician, so my terms may be a bit inaccurate. The resistors create the dimmer running lights. When the current passes through them, the lights are not as bright. When you use the brakes or turn signals, the lights receive the full current. That makes them brighten up. The diode are like check valves so the current doesn't flow back into the system. It causes issues when that happens.

You will still need to to add resistors to eliminate hyper flashing.

I hope this helps, ride safe,
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Richman, in the pic. I couldn't till which way the diodes were turned (polarity) and I know one wire goes to the LEDs and one to the power soarce but where does the second diode and resistor hook to?
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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:43 pm

Each light will have 2 power sources going to it. The Running lights which have the resistor, and the brake/turn lights do not. Each source has a diode. As for polarity, I would suggest trying Google. That is what I would have to do to answer your question.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by cwgreen1938 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:46 pm

Richman2000 wrote:Each light will have 2 power sources going to it. The Running lights which have the resistor, and the brake/turn lights do not. Each source has a diode. As for polarity, I would suggest trying Google. That is what I would have to do to answer your question.

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Thanks very much Rich, you have been a big help. I don't know much about electronics but I can't afford to pay someone to do the lights for me. Ride safe.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Richman2000 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:43 pm

When I started on the project, I was in the same boat. I did alot of Web surfing before I took the saddle bag lights on. Enjoy the new skills you are learning.

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by mstcitabria73 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:09 am

Do stock (from factory) 1997 Goldwing 1500 Aspencade's saddlebags not contain lighted reflectors? I recently ordered a left saddlebag replacement reflector from Cyclemax for $34.00. but saw this in a recent post I read this morning, http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/83/326 , $54.00 for both left/right LED reflectors and considering replacing stock reflectors with these. My Goldwing is currently in winter storage and not sure the saddlebags are lighted but don't believe they are. If I replace existing saddlebag reflectors with the LED reflectors where do I tap in to power up the new LED reflectors, from the wires in the trunk lights?

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by MikeB » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:09 pm

mstcitabria73 wrote:Do stock (from factory) 1997 Goldwing 1500 Aspencade's saddlebags not contain lighted reflectors?
No, they do not come with lighted reflectors. If and when you replace what you have with lighted reflectors, either the wiring will already be there from the previous owner's installation or you will have to run the wires yourself. The wires will go to the saddlebag lights. You can access the wires under the saddlebag lower corner piece.
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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by mstcitabria73 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:18 pm

Mike B.
Thanks for the info!

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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Rambozo » Tue May 15, 2018 12:39 am

Add another one to the list. After seeing this thread and others like it, I had to do this upgrade as well. I found some tape that had about 3 LEDs per inch so there is a ton of light. For the trunk sides, I just stuck them on top of the Fresnel lenses. That looked a lot better than behind.

Trunk LED tape
Trunk LED tape


Trunk lights finished
Trunk lights finished

For the saddlebags I only milled off the lower part of the old bulb holders, then applied two layers of double sided foam tape to bring the height up to match the ledge on the other side. That way all the LEDs are the same distance from the lens.

Milled down detail
Milled down detail


Foam tape
Foam tape


LEDs
LEDs

Came out great. I will add the turn signals to them later, once I change some more bulbs to LEDs and the swap the flasher. Since the old ones were the four bulb type, these LEDs actually draw a little more current. However, they are crazy bright vs the old incandescents.

Testing
Testing


Saddlebag lights finished
Saddlebag lights finished


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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Stew » Tue May 15, 2018 1:58 pm

Looks good, this is on my to-do list.
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Re: Replacing saddlebag lights with LEDs

Post by Stew » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:48 pm

Add me to the list, got these wrapped up today. I borrowed ideas from WingAdmin's original post by spray painting the chromed area so the black areas didn't show through and cutting out little notches to fit the ends of the LED strips, and Rambozo's idea of building up the recessed section so everything was about the same height to stick the LED's on. I started with the six-bulb glued together saddlebag lights which I only bought a few months back, they probably have less than 30 hours on them.

First, to borrow a pic from WingAdmin's first post, after removing the lenses I filed down all the nubs sticking out just as he shows in his pic:
Image


Ground down the bulb holders and scuffed the chromed area with a Scotch-Bright pad:


Next I cut sections of 1/8" ABS sheet which I had leftover from converting my side markers to LED and built up the recessed area:


Taped off ready to paint:


Spray painted with silver:


Ready for LED's and wiring:


Wired up ready to snap the lenses on:


No after shot, it looks like everyone else's... next is the trunk side lights!


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