How to remove and replace your rear wheel


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I have followed all the steps exactly. I am down to sliding the wheel into position on the splines and torqueing the axle bolt. When I torque the axle bolt the rear wheel tightens up and don't spin freely. I am sure the splines are in place. I have had it off and on numerous times and double checked everything. I have been told to put the caliper back on and bleed the brakes (rebuilt caliper and replaced brakes while I was at it) and then let it run in gear for a while to see if it loosens up. This makes me very nervous. Is this the correct thing to do at this point?


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Here is a how to on removing and replacing the rear wheel. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=11395

Obviously you have a problem. Don't listen to whoever advised you. If the wheel won't spin freely you have something installed incorrectly.
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That link is the exact instructions I used. Everything is together exactly as described. The caliper is still off, so I know the brakes are not dragging. The tire is not rubbing anywhere. The only thing left is the bearings binding. How do I check this, and what is the fix? I did not remove any bearings, and they all look fine.
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Hi guys. It's me again......... My rear wheel is on. breaks on. Shocks on. everything torqued to specs. when I was torqueing stuff. I noticed that the swing arms are swingin. entire rear end wobbles sideways about an inch of wiggle. rear is still in the air. But I'm pretty sure that aint supposed too happen. I did change my u-joint and sleeve. I know that bairing that the 17mm bolt has to be in place fore everything to spin likebutter. andit did. I torqued that big 17mm allen to 100lbs.went to the left side. didn.t thinik it was tightening up much but it took the play out out it. then aparently the castle nut thing tightens on to that. because it fell off. so I backed it off enough for the flange nut to go back on it. play is back. Is there a happy place that the left side needs to be?... I JINXED MYSELF WHEN I SAID I WILL BE RIDING TONIGHT.. %&%&*)&$#%^$#
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I stopped by a friend's house this past Saturday as he was replacing both tires and got stumped on getting the rear tire seated on the beat. The front tire went exactly like a YouTube that he watched without any problems. He and did everything we could think of to get the back tire to hold air enough to pop the tire out to the beads, but after almost 2 hours, and rather exhausted, we gave up and thought maybe his 35 gallon compressor just wasn't putting out enough air to do the job. We headed to town to find a tire shop, but all were closed by that time. I left for home and he started searching the web and, as luck would have it, found another YouTube video that said some have trouble getting the beads to seat so, because the valve stem acts like a check valve and will not allow the rapid volume of air to get in, so you need to remove it. He did that and within about a minute both beads popped right where they needed them and reinstalled the stem to pump the tire up part-way. I felt bad that I had already left so he had to do the rest himself. Fortunately he has a nice air lift.
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Corkster52 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:10 am I stopped by a friend's house this past Saturday as he was replacing both tires and got stumped on getting the rear tire seated on the beat. The front tire went exactly like a YouTube that he watched without any problems. He and did everything we could think of to get the back tire to hold air enough to pop the tire out to the beads, but after almost 2 hours, and rather exhausted, we gave up and thought maybe his 35 gallon compressor just wasn't putting out enough air to do the job. We headed to town to find a tire shop, but all were closed by that time. I left for home and he started searching the web and, as luck would have it, found another YouTube video that said some have trouble getting the beads to seat so, because the valve stem acts like a check valve and will not allow the rapid volume of air to get in, so you need to remove it. He did that and within about a minute both beads popped right where they needed them and reinstalled the stem to pump the tire up part-way. I felt bad that I had already left so he had to do the rest himself. Fortunately he has a nice air lift.
This is correct. You need a large volume of air rushing in all at once. With the valve core in place, it is too restrictive to allow the volume of air required.

However, most air chucks have a valve in them that does not open the chuck valve until it presses against the valve core - removing the valve core means you can't get any air out of the chuck.

From my How to change your tires article:

I use these clip-on valve chucks - however I use a pair of needle nose pliers to rip out the valve actuating piece in the middle of them. Basically you want to get as much air into the tire as fast as you can. There is no valve core in the valve stem to actuate, so the actuator doesn't need to be there obstructing airflow. I clip it to the valve stem, then hook up the air compressor to blast air into the tire. As the tire inflates, it pushes outwards, sliding the tire bead out toward the rim (which is why we need the lubricant). As the bead contacts the rim, you will hear a loud bang - one for each side of the tire.

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If the bead doesn't seat right away, I will unclip the hose and let the tire deflate, check where it has not seated, apply a bit more lubricant, and try again.
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Great post! Followed all instructions and everything went smoothly until I tried to remove the wheel. It is stuck on the last 2 pins and seems like there's no room to get them out. The rotor is against the swingarm on left side and the last 2 pins are held in by the wheel flange on the right. Am I missing something here? Was I supposed to remove the rotor? Will the final drive need to be removed? Maybe I misread a step or 2 but I went back and tried to re read it... any help would be appreciated.
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6Blackie6 wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:54 am Great post! Followed all instructions and everything went smoothly until I tried to remove the wheel. It is stuck on the last 2 pins and seems like there's no room to get them out. The rotor is against the swingarm on left side and the last 2 pins are held in by the wheel flange on the right. Am I missing something here? Was I supposed to remove the rotor? Will the final drive need to be removed? Maybe I misread a step or 2 but I went back and tried to re read it... any help would be appreciated.
Keep in mind that the pins on the "spider" can be pushed in and out of the wheel hub. If it is not fully seated into the wheel hub, there won't be enough clearance between the swingarm and the final drive to get the wheel out. Make sure the pins of the spider are pushed all the way in.

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Thanks for the quick reply! I just realized that the pins etc. have to stay with the wheel. Mine stayed on the final drive side. I guess I'll have to wrestle it back on somehow and try to pry it off with the hub.
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You can let all the air out of the tire to get a little more clearance, too.
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I know this post has been around for awhile but I have to give a big “Thank you!” To Wing Admin for the step by step.
It was my first time replacing a tire on one of these but-amazingly-except for a couple of add on features that had to be moved around the whole process worked and I test rode tonight with my new Dunlop 4’s and everything shook out well.
It’s kind of daunting to have to put so much back together and then test with the idea being you won’t have to take it apart again.
BTW also broke out his (Wing Admin) articles on gear oil change and brake pad replacement to do those jobs as well while I was in there.
Nice set of complete documents.
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I just started this process, took me two hours and a trip to the hardware store to finally get the saddle bags off, the phillips head screws hilding the chrome trim across the back stripped out so i had to buy a screw exreactor (my new favorite tool now). My 94 Aspencade has a tow hitch so im wondering do i have to disassemble the hitch and frame to get the wheel out? Seems I would have to Jack it up fairly high if not..
While I have the wheels off for new tires I'm also doing brakes, drive oil and Molly. Anything else I should while it's all apart, possibly new bearings for the front?. Thanks for the step by step, probably would not have attempted this otherwise.
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Yes. you need to take the hitch off. Just remember when you are removing the tire. Separate the wheel from the hub before dropping it down. Mine dropped down and got jammed stuck. I had a hell of a time getting it off. you have to pull it to the left to get it off the hub before there will be enough clearance to drop it down. I say do what you have planned but... IF IT AIN'T BROKE. DON'T FIX IT. When you are torqueing the drive shaft back on. Don't force anything. It needs to be real close to together before tightening it. I crancked on mine to pull it in the rest of the way.(BAD IDEA). I jammed the u joint. Making me change that too. (DUUUUU) The next time I change my rear tire. I'm going to do the LIFT METHOD. ALL YOU DO IS REMOVE THE AXAUST AND SHOCKS AND USE A PULLY MOUNTED TO THE CEILING. THE SADDLE BAGS AND TRUNK ALL MOVE UP AND OUT THE WAY TOGETHER. Sucks when you have to buy new tools. But it's great to have more new tools. (GOOD LUCK)
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When you get the tire off. Do yourself and your rim a favor. Take it to a bike shop and let them change it over. The rear tire is thick and really hard to get off and on the rim. I mangled my rim doing it. It's amazing it is holding the bead/air. I will never do it again. I will gladly pay someone $50 to do it next time.
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Great, thanks for the reply and advice!
It looks like my rear brake pads aren't too bad but I'll probably replace them anyway as I already bought new pads.
Looking forward to getting new tires on!
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BIMWing wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:08 pm I just started this process, took me two hours and a trip to the hardware store to finally get the saddle bags off, the phillips head screws hilding the chrome trim across the back stripped out so i had to buy a screw exreactor (my new favorite tool now). My 94 Aspencade has a tow hitch so im wondering do i have to disassemble the hitch and frame to get the wheel out? Seems I would have to Jack it up fairly high if not..
While I have the wheels off for new tires I'm also doing brakes, drive oil and Molly. Anything else I should while it's all apart, possibly new bearings for the front?. Thanks for the step by step, probably would not have attempted this otherwise.
The reason those phillips head screws stripped out is because they are not phillips - they are JIS. Using a philips screwdriver on JIS screws will generally have the results you just experienced.

You need JIS screwdrivers to work on Japanese vehicles: https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-Megadora- ... B000TG8OTY

Have a read through this: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20082
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This the 3rd time I have done this job and it is pretty easy going on my jack. I put a couple pieces of 2x4 under tire to drop it off onto and roll out back. One thing I noticed today Scott was the drive flange. I never took notice last time I did this that mine is 6 pin. They must have changed them did they? Yours is 5 pin. In saying that I never put assembly paste on pins last time since I didn't about the difference and never read that part. I will this time. And do you have any tips or tricks for getting those 4 sided white saddle bag cable things out of the hole. I get real flustered at them. In pics 12, 14 and 17. I end up taking the door off bag to see up in there better. Always just the left side.
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WingAdmin wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:01 pm
BIMWing wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:08 pm I just started this process, took me two hours and a trip to the hardware store to finally get the saddle bags off, the phillips head screws hilding the chrome trim across the back stripped out so i had to buy a screw exreactor (my new favorite tool now). My 94 Aspencade has a tow hitch so im wondering do i have to disassemble the hitch and frame to get the wheel out? Seems I would have to Jack it up fairly high if not..
While I have the wheels off for new tires I'm also doing brakes, drive oil and Molly. Anything else I should while it's all apart, possibly new bearings for the front?. Thanks for the step by step, probably would not have attempted this otherwise.
The reason those phillips head screws stripped out is because they are not phillips - they are JIS. Using a philips screwdriver on JIS screws will generally have the results you just experienced.

You need JIS screwdrivers to work on Japanese vehicles: https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-Megadora- ... B000TG8OTY

Have a read through this: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20082
I am not sure which screws across the back he is referring to. I took all out with Philips no problem. If they were different, wouldn't there be another driver other than Philips in original tool kit.
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Wildwilly018 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:30 pm This the 3rd time I have done this job and it is pretty easy going on my jack. I put a couple pieces of 2x4 under tire to drop it off onto and roll out back. One thing I noticed today Scott was the drive flange. I never took notice last time I did this that mine is 6 pin. They must have changed them did they? Yours is 5 pin. In saying that I never put assembly paste on pins last time since I didn't about the difference and never read that part. I will this time. And do you have any tips or tricks for getting those 4 sided white saddle bag cable things out of the hole. I get real flustered at them. In pics 12, 14 and 17. I end up taking the door off bag to see up in there better. Always just the left side.
If I recall correctly, it was the 1988 and 1989 only that had the six pin flange, before they switched to the five pin.

Those white cable clips, I've always just reached up and squeezed them with my fingers, they push right out. Just lucky? I don't know, I've never had a problem with them.
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Wildwilly018 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:44 pm
WingAdmin wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:01 pm
BIMWing wrote: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:08 pm I just started this process, took me two hours and a trip to the hardware store to finally get the saddle bags off, the phillips head screws hilding the chrome trim across the back stripped out so i had to buy a screw exreactor (my new favorite tool now). My 94 Aspencade has a tow hitch so im wondering do i have to disassemble the hitch and frame to get the wheel out? Seems I would have to Jack it up fairly high if not..
While I have the wheels off for new tires I'm also doing brakes, drive oil and Molly. Anything else I should while it's all apart, possibly new bearings for the front?. Thanks for the step by step, probably would not have attempted this otherwise.
The reason those phillips head screws stripped out is because they are not phillips - they are JIS. Using a philips screwdriver on JIS screws will generally have the results you just experienced.

You need JIS screwdrivers to work on Japanese vehicles: https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-Megadora- ... B000TG8OTY

Have a read through this: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20082
I am not sure which screws across the back he is referring to. I took all out with Philips no problem. If they were different, wouldn't there be another driver other than Philips in original tool kit.
ALL of the screws on the Goldwing are JIS. The tool kit included in the Goldwing has a JIS screwdriver in it, not a Phillips.

Phillips screwdrivers are designed to "cam out" under torque, and will do exactly that when trying to remove a tight screw, mangling the screw head.

JIS screwdrivers will not cam out, and apply much more torque to the fastener. You'll feel when using them that they "fit" better into the screw head, and do not let go.
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WingAdmin wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:58 am
Wildwilly018 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:30 pm This the 3rd time I have done this job and it is pretty easy going on my jack. I put a couple pieces of 2x4 under tire to drop it off onto and roll out back. One thing I noticed today Scott was the drive flange. I never took notice last time I did this that mine is 6 pin. They must have changed them did they? Yours is 5 pin. In saying that I never put assembly paste on pins last time since I didn't about the difference and never read that part. I will this time. And do you have any tips or tricks for getting those 4 sided white saddle bag cable things out of the hole. I get real flustered at them. In pics 12, 14 and 17. I end up taking the door off bag to see up in there better. Always just the left side.
If I recall correctly, it was the 1988 and 1989 only that had the six pin flange, before they switched to the five pin.

Those white cable clips, I've always just reached up and squeezed them with my fingers, they push right out. Just lucky? I don't know, I've never had a problem with them.
I have an 88 so I guess the reason for the 6 pin and I will have to remember to put some assembly paste on them before I put it back in place this time. Always the left side that gives me trouble with those clips. Hard spot to see up there. I will check my tool kit and take a closer look at the screw driver. Never noticed the difference.
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G'day to everyone from Australia. These DIY articles have helped me so much.

I have a new to me 1990 wing that that I am restoring.

I followed this rear wheel removal guide and all went well up to step 35/36 (removing wheel from final drive).

I failed to realise that the driven flange with slider pins is meant to slide into the wheel hub and be removed with the wheel. When I pulled the wheel sideways as per step 35, the driven flange stayed in the final drive.

I now have the problem that a previous poster experienced, which is that my wheel hub is caught up on 2 of the slider pins in the driven flange, which is stuck in the final drive.

There is not enough room to rotate the tire sideways to get it off the pins because the brake disc is hard up against the swingarm.

I have already tried getting the wheel back up onto the pins of the driven flange so I can slide the driven flange back into the wheel hub, but it is proving very difficult and the brake disc is being scratched on the swingarm.

My question is: if I follow the DIY article on replacing the universal joint, do you think I will be able to remove the final drive while the wheel is still in position? This is the only way I can think of being able to get the wheel out.

But if anyone else has any suggestions, please let me know.

Thank you!
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kerravon wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:35 pm G'day to everyone from Australia. These DIY articles have helped me so much.

I have a new to me 1990 wing that that I am restoring.

I followed this rear wheel removal guide and all went well up to step 35/36 (removing wheel from final drive).

I failed to realise that the driven flange with slider pins is meant to slide into the wheel hub and be removed with the wheel. When I pulled the wheel sideways as per step 35, the driven flange stayed in the final drive.

I now have the problem that a previous poster experienced, which is that my wheel hub is caught up on 2 of the slider pins in the driven flange, which is stuck in the final drive.

There is not enough room to rotate the tire sideways to get it off the pins because the brake disc is hard up against the swingarm.

I have already tried getting the wheel back up onto the pins of the driven flange so I can slide the driven flange back into the wheel hub, but it is proving very difficult and the brake disc is being scratched on the swingarm.

My question is: if I follow the DIY article on replacing the universal joint, do you think I will be able to remove the final drive while the wheel is still in position? This is the only way I can think of being able to get the wheel out.

But if anyone else has any suggestions, please let me know.

Thank you!
100%. You might even get away with just loosening the final drive bolts enough to get it loose from the swingarm, enough that you can move it laterally to get you the clearance you need.

Of course, you could always just pull the final drive off completely (yes, you can do that in the state you're currently in), and take the opportunity to lube the splines on the driveshaft as well.
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Thanks so much for the quick reply. By removing the final drive, I was able to remove the wheel without having to remove my tow bar. Now onto the next DIY article!
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kerravon wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:13 am Thanks so much for the quick reply. By removing the final drive, I was able to remove the wheel without having to remove my tow bar. Now onto the next DIY article!
Was there lots of lube on the splines of the drive flange and final drive when you finally got it out. Wondering why the drive flange didn't stay on the tire when you pulled it out. Mine always stays intact with the tire when I pull tire off final drive. I always take off my trailer hitch or there wouldn't be room to take things apart. Best of luck with the rest of your restoration.


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