How to install the GL1500 shifter brace


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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:07 pm



I will be working on a variant for the Valkyrie when time and workload allows. I need a loaner bike to do so. It will need r+d plus testing. The valkyrie has to have an aesthetically pleasing appearance since it will be exposed. It will cost more because of that.



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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:11 am

paladin wrote:Will this fit on a GL1500 Valkyrie? I have a sloppy shifter and a leaking seal so this would be the time to do this if I am replacing the seal anyway. Also where do I get it. It is no longer on Cyclemax?
It won't fit unmodified, but the attachment points are there, so it could be modified to fit.

Apparently Cliff (the designer) is working with a Valkyrie owner right now to design a modified version specifically for the Valkyrie, last I heard (about a month ago) it was in the works. I don't know how that is proceeding, but I know he was working on it.

Cyclemax is currently out of stock of them, which is why you don't see them on the site.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by urbanmadness » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:51 am

This is one of the things I want to do to my bike.... I bought it with 105k on it, and anything I can do to get more miles and better miles out of the bike. Although, if it does does have a catastrophic failure, it could be the nudge I need for an 1800 LOL (although I'm sure my wife won't see it that way)

I thought I'd seen them as recently as this week on their site.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:36 am

urbanmadness wrote:This is one of the things I want to do to my bike.... I bought it with 105k on it, and anything I can do to get more miles and better miles out of the bike. Although, if it does does have a catastrophic failure, it could be the nudge I need for an 1800 LOL (although I'm sure my wife won't see it that way)

I thought I'd seen them as recently as this week on their site.
sorry, for the 1500 model only.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by urbanmadness » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:19 pm

I have a 1500. The profile pic is my old bike.

Do you do the milling yourself or do you have a machine shop do them?

I'd love some one to make bullet brackets for wind wings. (The part that mounts on the lexon) or bullet floor boards.... of course I bet they would be pricey.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by paladin » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:11 pm

peppilepew wrote:
urbanmadness wrote:This is one of the things I want to do to my bike.... I bought it with 105k on it, and anything I can do to get more miles and better miles out of the bike. Although, if it does does have a catastrophic failure, it could be the nudge I need for an 1800 LOL (although I'm sure my wife won't see it that way)

I thought I'd seen them as recently as this week on their site.

sorry, for the 1500 model only.
Have you made progress on the Valkyrie derivative yet? I saw some action on the Valkyrie forum

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:36 pm

paladin wrote:
peppilepew wrote:
urbanmadness wrote:This is one of the things I want to do to my bike.... I bought it with 105k on it, and anything I can do to get more miles and better miles out of the bike. Although, if it does does have a catastrophic failure, it could be the nudge I need for an 1800 LOL (although I'm sure my wife won't see it that way)

I thought I'd seen them as recently as this week on their site.

sorry, for the 1500 model only.
Have you made progress on the Valkyrie derivative yet? I saw some action on the Valkyrie forum
I was promised a bike that never materialized. Honestly with the new building acquisition and the planned downsizing of our home getting this done has been impossible. Pushing 60 with little free time. The Valkyrie is going to be a little more of a challenge. For the time being my new shop owns me. I have been thinking about different ways to get this done. The ratio of 1500 wings to Valkyries coupled with the differences in Valkyrie models will require more than one bike and more than one expensive solution. I enjoy challenges or I wouldn't be in the transmission business. LOL. About 1k pivots have been sold covering about in my estimation >1% of the existing wings on the road. There may be as fewer than 20k Valkyres out there. If the percentage of sales holds constant then you do the math. R+D and manufacturing cost will make this impractical to bring to market. I however will make a valid attempt when the conditions allow. Time and energy must be placed where it will do the most good.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by paladin » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:54 pm

That is just about the best answer I have ever read on a forum. Thank you. I know some solutions have been posted but none are as elegant and well designed.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by donpauli » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:25 pm

This "accessory" in my opinion is an absolute needed purchase. I rode for about 6 months before I got around to putting it on and that was nuts. Shifts are precise now not vague at all. This guy was a genius taking the time to figure this out and it's a reasonable enough price it simply makes no sense to cobble something together. I really hope he recovers his costs and makes a little something

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by OldBill388 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:48 am

Hi,
I meant to post this last year when I fitted a shifter brace to my 1994 SE. It had 96k miles on it at that stage (now 103k miles). This accessory is miraculous! I had a gear shift lever that was waving all over the place and the oil seal leaked oil at an alarming rate coating the underside of the bike. I replaced the oil seal and fitted the shift brace myself without the aid of a lift (I'm not a mechanic though I'm not too bad at basic stuff!) and whilst getting the inner lever off was difficult(about 1mm too little clearance (soggy engine mounts?)) fitting the oil seal was simplicity itself. The shift brace fitted exactly as intended with no adjustment needed. The lower fairing adaptation was easy using a Dremel tool to cut away a section.
The improvement in gear shifting was better than expected and has required no further attention to date.
My first trip using this device after checking that all was installed correctly was to ride from my place in the UK to Costa Blanca, Spain....about 1500 miles with no issues of a my kind.
The shifter brace was delivered to my home in about 7 days.
All in all very pleased.
Thanks for making it available and for such a precision made item. It makes life very easy.

Cheers.
Oldbill388

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:39 pm

Thanks for the kind words. Most have been very happy.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:55 am

I'm asking for some help from those that have recently purchased this pivot. It seems that there is a pirate once again. Would a few people that have purchased this from someone else, other than me, be so kind to send a pic of the part, or, directions. I am pretty sure who is behind it. I want to verify before I approach them.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Stew » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:53 pm

I've recently acquired my dad's low mileage 1500 and in my first thread DenverWinger had asked if it had a shifter brace on it. Now that I've taken care of some other items and verified there is no brace, I will be ordering the real genuine brace from you peppilepew. With only 19,000 or so miles on it the shift shaft looks nice and dry and still pretty tight and I'd like it to stay that way for years to come! Thanks for the great product :)

Edit: Just purchased direct from your website, can't wait!
Winging it every chance I get 8-)

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:25 am

Thanks, I have the order on my screen. Enjoy that wing, I sometimes miss my 1500 on trips. I love the 1500's comfort, and storage. I will get it out today.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by garywyoung » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:10 pm

Just to chime in, I installed the shifter brace today on my ‘90 1500SE. With just 54k miles, the shifter and the seal were still fine; installing the brace, which was easy and quick, ensures my shifter and seal stay fine.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Alemayehu » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:00 am

You make me to proud wing admin dummy like me I have a lot to say how I have been treated in a bike shop.This is my story.Mid 2014 I took my bike on trailer and wait to be fixed and almost two month gone and I have to take it back because of parking space.Again I got a call and have to take it back on trailer and wait wait always the guy promise next Friday.Then at last I have found this website and brought back my bike home and done it my self. What can I say,the step by step procedures are great and the photos of the steps really gave me the courage to perform the procedure. I have not failed or been frustrated even once due to the advise within the steps. Thank you very very much from the bottom of my heart and others for their input on the how-to articles. I really don't have enough words to explain and I have to admit quiet hard for me to put it in words.
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Stew » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:54 pm

I swear nothing seems to be quick and easy so far with this bike, it's almost like it was dropped at the factory or something because things on the front half of the bike all seem to be off just a bit. The back half doesn't appear to suffer from this so far :? .

At any rate, I finally got around to installing my shifter brace this morning and I just couldn't get it adjusted smoothly, but after looking a little closer, and with a little tweaking here and there it finally feels pretty smooth.

The first thing I noticed was the brace was contacting the inner exhaust shield enough to be gouging it, that was fixed easily enough with a grinding bit in my Dremel, I took a little material off the shield and brace both. First hurdle overcome:




Still not able to get it smooth I looked further. The washer supplied with the brace was big enough it was contacting the engine guard and my thought was when tightened down it was pressing down on the brace enough to cause it to bind. A cutoff wheel in the Dremel took care of that:




You can see that the brace was cockeyed from the wear pattern as I kept trying to adjust and test:


Finally through testing and adjusting I was able to get it 90% to 95% smooth, I wicked in a couple drops of 3-in-1 oil into the pivot point of the brace and I'm sure as everything seats it will smooth out that last 5%. There is no binding at this point and it really does take all the slop out of that strange shifter design.

Lastly, three cutoff discs later and a bunch of test fitting, here is my modified outer exhaust shield. I was trying to remove as little material as possible but it pretty much looks like everyone elses. I grabbed a can of silver Duplicolor I had laying around and sprayed some on a Q-Tip and painted up the bare metal edge:


My issues were certainly not with the brace itself, that is a well made item with perfect tolerances, it's the fact that everything forward of the foot pegs is off just enough to make everything take three times longer than it should :lol:
Winging it every chance I get 8-)

19,119 miles when I got it from dad Oct 15, 2017 --- 22,872 miles and counting as of June 27, 2018!

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:22 am

It sure does seem like your bike is a bit crooked in the front end - yet it rides OK?

I like your paint-on-a-Q-tip idea. I masked mine off and sprayed it to prevent rusting of the bare metal at the cut, but your method seems a bit faster.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Stew » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:58 am

Fortunately whatever is up with these fitment issues it doesn't seem to be effecting the ride. It tracks good at slow and freeway speeds, handlebars are straight when going straight, aggressive braking is straight and controlled, cornering deep enough to (accidentally) scrape pegs is controlled and drama free. I suppose these little quirks I'm running into are what make it unique and mine, I'm definitely still loving it! :D

Yeah, Q-Tips make perfect disposable paint brushes for this kind of thing :)
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by tannenba » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:03 pm

So...I don't see anyone putting this on when they have floorboard...The bolt holding the front of the floorboard is a long bolt also holding the case guard. Don't see any way to have it and the brace?? Am I missing something?

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:46 pm

tannenba wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:03 pm
So...I don't see anyone putting this on when they have floorboard...The bolt holding the front of the floorboard is a long bolt also holding the case guard. Don't see any way to have it and the brace?? Am I missing something?
It would depend on the floorboard manufacturer - they fit differently depending on who makes them.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by tannenba » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:17 pm

I believe its and Enguard Set. There is a spacer behind the floorboard on top of the case guard tab. I could probably shorten it by the amount of the thickness of the brace, but don't know If I could hold it in alignment till the bolt is tightened. I thought about using the bolt temporarily to adjust everything, then remove the bolt and put the spacer and other bolt back in. Don't know if it would stay adjusted. Wouldn't mind having the brace in because the shaft is pretty sloppy. Doesn't cause problems for the heel and toe shifter, But it is not as precise as some others I've tried and the bike has 175K mi on it and could use a new oil seal. I am hesitant because the cost has gone to $127 + oil seal and shipping.



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