How to install the GL1500 shifter brace


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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Chickenlegs » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:35 pm



Results. I basically made half a washer .018'' thick out of some stainless steel tin I had laying around, smeared some blue locktite on the upper half of the engine gaurd mounting tab, reinstalled the shifter brace and now I have NO drag at all and everything works great! Oh-YEA !!! :D



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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by spiralout » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:08 pm

ftmoore992003 wrote: I noticed on the video after the brace was installed, that the shaft or spindal was moving worse than before the repair. What am I missing?
ftmoore992003 wrote: I'm sorry, I don't mean to be negative, but all I see is the shifter rod moving back and forth and up and down. I haven't seen the shaft itself turn or revolve when you shift to higher gears or lower gears. I hope I haven't spent $125 and it still wallers around.
I think you're still confused about the way the shifter works like I was.
The shaft you see that the brace is on doesn't turn or rotate. It moves up and down and causes the arm/lever on the inboard end to rotate the actual shifter shaft (that you can't see in the pics or vid)

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:19 pm

spiralout wrote:
ftmoore992003 wrote: I noticed on the video after the brace was installed, that the shaft or spindal was moving worse than before the repair. What am I missing?
ftmoore992003 wrote: I'm sorry, I don't mean to be negative, but all I see is the shifter rod moving back and forth and up and down. I haven't seen the shaft itself turn or revolve when you shift to higher gears or lower gears. I hope I haven't spent $125 and it still wallers around.
I think you're still confused about the way the shifter works like I was.
The shaft you see that the brace is on doesn't turn or rotate. It moves up and down and causes the arm/lever on the inboard end to rotate the actual shifter shaft (that you can't see in the pics or vid)
The shaft pivots on a plane, not an axis like I said. There is a difference. More of a sweeping motion. The axis points are the pivot where it goes into the block, and the actual crankcase bearing where the shaft seal is located. OEM had to expect problems with the design. They knew the bike would be long out of warranty before anyone would notice. They don't as a rule warranty seals anyway. Considered a wear item.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by ftmoore992003 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:04 pm

I finished mounting my shifter brace on Thursday and its good and tight now like it should be. It didn't have hardly any slack in it but i'm always a fan of preventive maintenance. I had ordered the seal also but found out I didn't need one. I left it off cause the old one was still good. When I looked at the OEM shifter diagram, I understood then why it looked like it still had slack but didn't have any. Sorry it took so long to figure it out. Thanks for the invention. :D

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Chickenlegs » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:28 pm

ftmoore992003 wrote:I finished mounting my shifter brace on Thursday and its good and tight now like it should be. It didn't have hardly any slack in it but i'm always a fan of preventive maintenance. I had ordered the seal also but found out I didn't need one. I left it off cause the old one was still good. When I looked at the OEM shifter diagram, I understood then why it looked like it still had slack but didn't have any. Sorry it took so long to figure it out. Thanks for the invention. :D
My 97 with 29,000 miles did not have alot of play either but it did have some, nor was my seal leaking. With the seal only 3 bucks I thought like you... "preventive maintenance" it took me about 30min. to take the shifter shaft extention off, pop the old seal out and put the new seal in, now i have peace of mind. The only play i have now is the play that should be there. Done right and peace of mind. Now it will run better, faster, get better gas milage, and look better, I know thats what happens when I wash and wax it.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by eberlebike4 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:03 am

Going to have to get me one:)

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Rhorn » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:47 am

Hi everyone, Just a post from France
I installed the shifter pivot last week and had some trouble. The extension arm No 2 (on the sketch above my post) was installed on the gearbox outlet one step higher than original I think. Which is no problem without the pivot. But with it installed I could only gear down, but not up as the pivot was fully closed. I had to remove this shaft no 2 and install it one step lower (which let the tightening bolt even more difficult to reach) so the pivot was able to go down and also up. Now its ok but still the shift is not as "free" as before and movements are quite "slower" it seems to be better anyway.
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:24 am

Rhorn wrote:Hi everyone, Just a post from France
I installed the shifter pivot last week and had some trouble. The extension arm No 2 (on the sketch above my post) was installed on the gearbox outlet one step higher than original I think. Which is no problem without the pivot. But with it installed I could only gear down, but not up as the pivot was fully closed. I had to remove this shaft no 2 and install it one step lower (which let the tightening bolt even more difficult to reach) so the pivot was able to go down and also up. Now its ok but still the shift is not as "free" as before and movements are quite "slower" it seems to be better anyway.
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Did you view the install video?

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Rhorn » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:34 pm

Yes I did look the video. I also red the comments of other users.
I suspect, as the bars seems to be twisted, that the bike some times fall and may be the "nut" where the 6mm hex screw is screwed, is not exactly where is should be. I still have to set this, or the chromed part is nos as flat as should be, like with problems of other users.
I'll tell you. It may take time, but I am sure to succeed.
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:38 am

Rhorn wrote:Yes I did look the video. I also red the comments of other users.
I suspect, as the bars seems to be twisted, that the bike some times fall and may be the "nut" where the 6mm hex screw is screwed, is not exactly where is should be. I still have to set this, or the chromed part is nos as flat as should be, like with problems of other users.
I'll tell you. It may take time, but I am sure to succeed.
Thank you
I would recommend you remove the block until you have the alignment problem solved. The lever needs to return to neutral between shifts.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Rhorn » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:46 am

Here it is, perfectly working.
Like others, the big allen bolt did "heave" up the brace a bit. I "machined" an angle shim from a washer, and now its perfect.
Nice system Thanks

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Dannyboy1966 » Wed May 14, 2014 6:20 am

I'm having a weird problem with my brace. Just quick runs around the neighborhood, or a trip around the lake by my house everything is fine. The minute I put it on the highway and get it all heated up the pinch around the shift shaft starts slipping, eventually getting so misaligned i can't get it into low. I've had to pull over 2 times now tare into it and reset it along side the road (not the safest place to be). After I reset it, works fine for a while till it heats up again. Is there some specific torque I should be setting it at? I don't really want to strip the bolt out. Lord knows I already had to replace the bold on the shift arm itself with a bold and locknut. LOL Any help guys?

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by WingAdmin » Wed May 14, 2014 8:13 am

Dannyboy1966 wrote:I'm having a weird problem with my brace. Just quick runs around the neighborhood, or a trip around the lake by my house everything is fine. The minute I put it on the highway and get it all heated up the pinch around the shift shaft starts slipping, eventually getting so misaligned i can't get it into low. I've had to pull over 2 times now tare into it and reset it along side the road (not the safest place to be). After I reset it, works fine for a while till it heats up again. Is there some specific torque I should be setting it at? I don't really want to strip the bolt out. Lord knows I already had to replace the bold on the shift arm itself with a bold and locknut. LOL Any help guys?
The coefficient of linear thermal expansion (basically how much it expands when heated) is roughly double for aluminum than what it is for steel. Basically, when you heat steel and aluminum equally, the aluminum expands twice as much as steel. The pivot is aluminum, the shaft is steel, and it is sitting right next to the exhaust header. So if the pivot isn't perfectly tight on the shaft, when it heats up, the pivot encircling the steel shaft will expand and become loose. If the shaft diameter is slightly small this can happen as well.

I would try this: heat up the pivot/shaft area (where the pivot encircles the shaft) with a heat gun or torch - not too hot, you don't want to melt or damage anything. When it is hot, the aluminum will have expanded. At that time, tighten the pinch bolt. It would then be tight when expanded, not just when it's cool.

You might want to also try marking the side of the pinch bolt with paint, a "witness mark" - and then look at it next time this happens. You'll be able to see if the pinch bolt is actually loosening off, because the witness mark will have moved. If this is the case, then put some Loc-Tite on the pinch bolt threads before tightening it again.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Dannyboy1966 » Wed May 14, 2014 9:49 am

I thought it might be something stupid simple like that, I just wasn't thinking about heating it up. I'll give it a try this weekend, and let you know how things turn out. Thanks.. :D

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Wingsconsin » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:58 am

I accidentally ruined this rubber part while installing my shifter brace. It was in rough shape to begin with and it ripped when trying to reinstall it . I didn't think much of it and decided I could ride without it for a while. That was when I noticed WHY Honda designed it on there in the first place. If it was fall or cold weather it would be no problem ..but now in the heart of summer I can feel the HEAT pouring out of that hole onto my left boot and up my leg....

I ordered a new one today ... :roll: :oops: :|


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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by MikeB » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:54 am

I installed my shift stabilizer yesterday. Other than having to remove the lower front shield a couple of times to make modifications to the shift shaft tunnel trim job, the install was perfect. I also had to trim some metal off of the heat shield behind the exhaust manifold adjacent to the mounting point of the shift stabilizer. With 146,000 miles on the bike, I also had to replace the seal.

It works smooth and crisp. I love the way the shifter feels. Thank you peppilepew.
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Post by 702scottc » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:28 pm

I just finished installing the shift brace kit on my 1990 1500 Aspy. Have to say that my overall impression of it is great. Easy to install and really tightens up that sloppy shift shaft. If any of you guys haven't completed this upgrade or are thinking about it, I urge you to save up and get one. $125 is short money when you consider the alternative of pulling the engine to repair the trans and replace the shift drum assy.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Roscored » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:15 am

I bought one of these, & I ended up putting a .026 thousand shim at the top and it works prefect.

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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Happytrails » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:03 am

MikeB wrote:I installed my shift stabilizer yesterday. Other than having to remove the lower front shield a couple of times to make modifications to the shift shaft tunnel trim job, the install was perfect. I also had to trim some metal off of the heat shield behind the exhaust manifold adjacent to the mounting point of the shift stabilizer. With 146,000 miles on the bike, I also had to replace the seal.

It works smooth and crisp. I love the way the shifter feels. Thank you peppilepew.
I might also have to trim the heat shield next to the header. I thought I could just bend it a little but when trial fitting it seems like not enough room. Going to try test fit again tomorrow and see.

One other issue is I have Addon engine guards. Had to remove a fair chunk of the tube to make room. So I've been taking my time to try to make sure everything is as square and true as I can.
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by CWJ73 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:54 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:I accidentally ruined this rubber part while installing my shifter brace. It was in rough shape to begin with and it ripped when trying to reinstall it . I didn't think much of it and decided I could ride without it for a while. That was when I noticed WHY Honda designed it on there in the first place. If it was fall or cold weather it would be no problem ..but now in the heart of summer I can feel the HEAT pouring out of that hole onto my left boot and up my leg....

I ordered a new one today ... :roll: :oops: :|


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Wingconsin,

Any chance you remember the part number? My 1500 did not have this boot on either the left or right side of the bike and I'd like to get replacements as well.

Thanks
Craig
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by MikeB » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:41 am

Sure.


Items number #10 and #11 are what you are looking for.

Here are the Honda Part Numbers:
#10 18321-MN5-000 RUBBER, R
#11 18322-MN5-000 RUBBER, L.

They are about $22 each from Partzilla.
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by CWJ73 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:33 pm

MikeB wrote:Sure.
rubber parts.jpg
Items number #10 and #11 are what you are looking for.

Here are the Honda Part Numbers:
#10 18321-MN5-000 RUBBER, R
#11 18322-MN5-000 RUBBER, L.

They are about $22 each from Partzilla.
Thanks MikeB.

The install this weekend went relatively well. I have Markland Floorboard with Heel Toe shifter which added a small bit of complexity to the job. I noted in the video that is is mentioned that either the bolt needs to be 7/8" longer or remove 7/8" from the spacer. Well in looking at the setup of all the parts holding the floorboard on just using a longer bolt was not going to work and I did not have the means to cut down the spacer, so what I did was crafted a replacement spacer 7/8" shorter. This seems to have fit the bill.

I still have one little issue to work out before I button everything back up. When I initially test fit the pivot in place and had the floor boards mounted the shifter was crisp and smooth, but once I put everything back in place (including the heat shield) the pivot is binding and not allowing the shifter to return to its middle position. Somehow between the initial test fit and finally putting everything back together something has moved or altered the angle on the two blocks in the pivot causing the binding. I'll tear it apart again this coming weekend and see what happened.
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by Wingsconsin » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:49 pm

CWJ73 wrote:
I still have one little issue to work out before I button everything back up. When I initially test fit the pivot in place and had the floor boards mounted the shifter was crisp and smooth, but once I put everything back in place (including the heat shield) the pivot is binding and not allowing the shifter to return to its middle position. Somehow between the initial test fit and finally putting everything back together something has moved or altered the angle on the two blocks in the pivot causing the binding. I'll tear it apart again this coming weekend and see what happened.
I experienced something similar on the 2nd GL1500 I installed the pivot on.
I think the hole that the shift shaft goes through and is subject to the tightening by the installation bolt can "slip" as it is tightened and changes the angle just slightly..the pivot block can rotate around the shaft and still be close to alignment -- but not as good as it can be...
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by peppilepew » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:07 pm

These pivot threads have taken on a life of their own. It is uplifting to see this, and the goldwingfacts forum bringing members together helping each other. I have agreed to start developing a Valkyrie bracket to adapt this pivot. I am sure it will be a similar experience on the Valkyrie forum.

thanks everyone,
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Re: How to install the GL1500 shifter brace

Post by idflyit » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:11 pm

trying to find this brace on the cyclemax web site IMPOSSIBLE....the posted link doesn't do it either...H E L P



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