GL1500 cruise engage lag


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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:16 am



freedoug wrote:can you tell me if this same procedure would work on the GL1800, has I too have "lag-time" when setting and resuming the cruise.
I suspect it would. The GL1800 has similar adjusters on the cable coming from its actuator.



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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by freedoug » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:20 am

then I guess I'll get busy and try it out....thanks

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by GlimWas » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:08 am

Wel, i tried to do it the official way today as i replaced the sub and cruise filter, but no matter how i searched for the alignment marks
all i could see were tubes and hoses.......... I think i wil do it the way described here as soon i got the bike running again.
Seems like a whole lot easier..... :roll:
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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:43 pm

GlimWas wrote:Wel, i tried to do it the official way today as i replaced the sub and cruise filter, but no matter how i searched for the alignment marks
all i could see were tubes and hoses.......... I think i wil do it the way described here as soon i got the bike running again.
Seems like a whole lot easier..... :roll:
I already tried it the official way once before, and still had the lag. This method worked 100% for me.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by GlimWas » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:39 am

That makes it official then............
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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by DaveClifton » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:12 am

Fatwing Chris wrote:I know back when I got my 1500 there were guys complaining about a lag even after adjusting the cable and what someone had come up with was to hit the set button and then hit the resume right after.Not saying it's right,but it did work.Hopefully this new way of adjusting eliminates the need for hitting both buttons.
My 1989 GL1500 not only has a lag, but I need to hit the resume button 5 or 6 times to get it to the proper speed. Just hitting the set button will drop the speed, say I set it to 60, to between 45 and 50.

I'll try this adjustment and see what happens.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:30 am

DaveClifton wrote:
Fatwing Chris wrote:I know back when I got my 1500 there were guys complaining about a lag even after adjusting the cable and what someone had come up with was to hit the set button and then hit the resume right after.Not saying it's right,but it did work.Hopefully this new way of adjusting eliminates the need for hitting both buttons.
My 1989 GL1500 not only has a lag, but I need to hit the resume button 5 or 6 times to get it to the proper speed. Just hitting the set button will drop the speed, say I set it to 60, to between 45 and 50.

I'll try this adjustment and see what happens.

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That's exactly what mine did, until this adjustment fixed it.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by Mooseman » Mon May 08, 2017 12:24 pm

I had my bike apart this weekend to fix the reverse, so seeing as I had the bodywork off anyway, I did this procedure - using dingdong's method. I cranked the adjustment out until the idle just barely started to climb, then backed it off just about 3/4 turn and locked it with the jam nut. It works! The lag is gone.

I also did this for my 90K service.... and WOW! :o What a difference... I backed mine out about one turn and it's perfect.
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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by Corkster52 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:29 am

I noticed I have this issue a bit on my 99. Will have to give this fix a go. Thanks all!

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by Swagonmaster » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:26 pm

spiralout wrote:
Sun May 10, 2015 3:25 pm
dingdong wrote:Thanks! I have seen that same method posted elsewhere. I haven't tried it but now I will. It looks like a good option. I have adjusted with the "by the book" method but it didn't work for me either.

Tom
I'd seen this method posted on a few assorted sites and decided to finally try it and it worked for me. Figured I'd post it here, where I hang out :D :D :D
Mh434 wrote:This might be a nice addition to the GL1500 DIY articles...sooner or later, I'm going to need to find this!
Boss man moved it to the DIY's for easy reference 8-)

As a followup to my OP, I had to readjust the cable the day after. I didn't get to do any riding the day I did the adjustment except for the test ride. The day after, I put a good 30 miles on it and noticed my idle was up to around 950 rpm after coming up to temp. I tried to turn it down some but couldn't because the cruise was holding it up. I had to back off the adjuster a hair to be able to idle it back down to normal. I rode 200 miles this morning between 45-75 mph and it worked perfectly so I'm attributing this to the bike not being completely up to operating temps the day before.
This I think is the reason that the factory cable adjustment is so loose, engineers and lawyers are a little paranoid about the throttle coming to idle with absolutely no questions. If you notice during operation the cruise is very gentle with its throttle corrections so as to not jerk us around trying to hold a set speed. That translates to a rather slow engagement as the vacuum diaphragm gently takes up the slack in the cruise cable. If you adjust the cable so that there is just a touch of slack it will engage decently and not have your butt biting holes in the seat cover as you come to a stop.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by DaveO430 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:36 am

freedoug wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:12 pm
can you tell me if this same procedure would work on the GL1800, has I too have "lag-time" when setting and resuming the cruise.
Yes it will and is the accepted method of doing it since the book method of looking through a tiny hole and aligning marks doesn't work anyway. You do have to remove the top shelter to get to it on an 1800 though so do it when you are due an air filter or have some other project to do under there.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by jfisher49 » Thu May 10, 2018 12:10 pm

Hi, everyone, my name is Jeff, and I just got registered so I could hopefully get some additional information and help for the cruise "lag" issue discussed by both spiralout and dingdong. I own a 1996 GL1500 SE, but my adjusting setup looks a little different from the pictures sprialout posted on his article. All I see and can get to is the adjusting nut. I see no threads or lock nut, and the rubber sleeve is right up against the adjusting nut. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions for me?

Thanks!!

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by MasterDaniel904 » Thu May 10, 2018 4:53 pm

Hey Jeff,
You are exactly correct. I just did this process on my '96 A and found exactly what you did. So... Start your engine and let it warm up. Make sure the choke is off and you are idling at normal rpm. Loosen the nut. Turn it out about an inch. Then start turning the threaded shaft. I had to turn it a LOT but finally you will hear the engine begin to rev higher. Stop and wait a moment. Then turn the shaft back slowly until you are at normal rpm again. THEN continue backing it a FULL turn! That was the step I missed doing and now when I hit the cruise the speed JUMPS 2 to 3 mph! Next time I have that panel off I'll back it down at least a full turn. Now, before you go putting on all that darn plastic, hit the highway. Put the cruise through its paces and verify that a) the lag is gone, and b) it isn't jumping faster!

Good riding to you! I had that dern lag for 20 years before making this tiny adjustment which has made my riding so much nicer! All hail Goldwing Docs!
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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by amsoilguy » Fri May 11, 2018 6:58 am

Could this adjustment be so out of whack as to keep the cruise from engaging at all?
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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by jfisher49 » Fri May 11, 2018 8:50 am

Thanks for the reply, MasterD, but I'm still a little confused. Is the first nut you refer to the lock nut or adjusting nut? And if I can't see the lock nut because of the rubber sleeve, what do I do? There is very little room to work in there, and I keep touching the hot engine. Any additional help would be most appreciated.

Jeff

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by spiralout » Fri May 11, 2018 8:25 pm

jfisher49 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Hi, everyone, my name is Jeff, and I just got registered so I could hopefully get some additional information and help for the cruise "lag" issue discussed by both spiralout and dingdong. I own a 1996 GL1500 SE, but my adjusting setup looks a little different from the pictures sprialout posted on his article. All I see and can get to is the adjusting nut. I see no threads or lock nut, and the rubber sleeve is right up against the adjusting nut. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions for me?

Thanks!!
jfisher49 wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 8:50 am
Thanks for the reply, MasterD, but I'm still a little confused. Is the first nut you refer to the lock nut or adjusting nut? And if I can't see the lock nut because of the rubber sleeve, what do I do? There is very little room to work in there, and I keep touching the hot engine. Any additional help would be most appreciated.

Jeff
Pull the rubber back and all will be revealed. Sorry for not mentioning that but it is the first step shown in the screen shot I posted of the FSM.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by MasterDaniel904 » Sat May 12, 2018 4:21 pm

amsoilguy wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 6:58 am
Could this adjustment be so out of whack as to keep the cruise from engaging at all?
Unlikely. This unit, if that far out of wack, would either rev the engine to bursting, or prevent any change to the rpm. Sounds like you have a problem with one of the four auto disconnect switches. The two in the handles are easy to check, and replace. The one in the foot break is easy to check, and a bear to adjust or replace, I finally had to bypass it. Not sure where the one in the clutch pedal is located, haven't had to fix that one yet!
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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by DaveO430 » Sat May 12, 2018 6:43 pm

amsoilguy wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 6:58 am
Could this adjustment be so out of whack as to keep the cruise from engaging at all?
If the set light doesn't set then it's electrical, nothing to do with the adjustment. If the set light comes on and nothing happens then it's vacuum or mechanical.

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Re: GL1500 cruise engage lag

Post by amsoilguy » Mon May 14, 2018 12:03 pm

Thanks for the suggestions!


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