Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make


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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by keithg64 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:39 am



Very nice read. Thank you for bring this back up. I'll have to look at my tool kit and the drivers I got at an auction of a retired motorcycle mechanic shop.


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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by minimac » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:30 am

eklimek wrote:Not to be fussy but as an amateur it is fairly easy to modify the phillips as needed..... It takes only a small grinder, a model and good eye.
Must have a bloody great eye to grind a Phillips to 57 degrees!

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Post by harvey01 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:16 pm

It is so much easier to just buy a set from a fellow motorcyclist at Shinopples.com

And they work great!
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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by dennislp » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:09 pm

cyclemax sells them the screwdriver or just tips. they fit perfect

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by FM-USA » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:54 pm

BIT THESE...
Few bits I found.


The last known JIS head screws made were in 2008.

When I was little (late 50's to early 60's) I constantly broke my dads JIS screwdrivers. NOW I know why.
The JIS didn't have any MEAT in the flutes and any angle of the screwdriver easily broke the tip.


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Post by Scooter363y » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:40 pm

I worked in motorcycle shops for eight years and at Honda engineering for 31.5 years and these are the best fit for JIC screws. Quite stripping out screws using the wrong tools.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000T ... ingdocs-20

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Post by kybigmac » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:23 pm

You can get a set of bits from wing stuff for less than 10 bucks and they work great!

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Post by Bugmerc » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:54 pm

Scooter363y wrote:I worked in motorcycle shops for eight years and at Honda engineering for 31.5 years and these are the best fit for JIC screws. Quite stripping out screws using the wrong tools.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000T ... ingdocs-20

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It looks like all the instructions are in Japanese! What if I can't figure out how to use them? ;) ;)

(Those are kind of interesting and look quite comfortable to use)

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Post by Scooter363y » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:42 am

I worked as a motorcycle mechanic for 6 years and at Honda engineering for 32 years. I used these at Honda and they worked great. Fairly inexpensive compared to the frustration of damaging my screws.

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-Ball-2x10 ... ingdocs-20

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by terryb » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:42 am

I have a 2014 F6B, do I need these or is this just for prior to 2008 models?
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Post by FM-USA » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:58 am

terryb wrote:I have a 2014 F6B, do I need these or is this just for prior to 2008 models?
Once you start working on your bike, others might want your services also. Get'm.
Best to have than have not. ;)
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Post by Corkster52 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:45 pm

I just ordered a number of Honda OEM screws from Partzilla. I wonder if they will be JIS?

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Post by Corkster52 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:13 pm

I bought a set of these a while back and, to be honest, forgot I had them until I was reading this thread. :o
https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW2069-1- ... ingdocs-20

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by MikeB » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:08 pm

Corkster52 wrote:I just ordered a number of Honda OEM screws from Partzilla. I wonder if they will be JIS?
You can count on OEM screws being JIS screws.
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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:27 pm

Corkster52 wrote:I bought a set of these a while back and, to be honest, forgot I had them until I was reading this thread. :o
https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW2069-1- ... ingdocs-20
Pozi-drive is not the same as JIS. Pozi-drive screws are another "similar to Phillips" alternative.

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by Corkster52 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:25 pm

Darn! I thought they were :oops:

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by Corkster52 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:05 pm

Pozi-drive is not the same as JIS. Pozi-drive screws are another "similar to Phillips" alternative.
I ordered both JIS bit inserts and sizes 1, 2 and 3 screwdrivers from Cyclemax today. Thanks WingAdmin

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Post by julimike54 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:20 pm

Vessel Tools JIS screwdrivers are very good!
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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by Jambriwal » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:54 pm

Excellent article. I have always enjoyed repairing , modifying and enhancing vehicles or other machinery i own or encounter thru work or friends who stop by for help. This nagging question about Phillips screw drivers has been in the back of my mind for quite awhile. Back in the 70's when i'd pull the carbs off my RD 350 to clean them, due to fuels from the 70's leaving behind a lot more soot and varnish. I noticed that the Carb screws and some of the electrical screws on that Yamaha has a crisper more precise cut to the cross head. You wanted a newer screw driver so it would bite well and not round out the cross. Since i have very little technical training over the years it seems this " Japanese Industrial Standard" slipped right by me. Sometimes those nagging little thoughts actually have a pupose.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by Corkster52 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:23 pm

The nice thing about the Vessels is they are magnetic too.

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by eklimek » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:06 pm

I uploaded this thread a couple of years ago and I just stumbled across this article. I thought it would be a nice adjunct to the thread.

http://www.instructables.com/id/When-a- ... -Phillips/

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by gwbldad » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:51 pm

I always suspected there was a specific type of bit that was designed to fit Japanese manufactured products, but never took the time to find out. Now I know, and will be purchasing the correct tools for my next project. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge!

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by 2014redwing » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:37 am

I do not have these screwdrivers yet . does this mean I am screwed !! lol just kidding

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by SilverDave » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:11 pm

So two questions :
I assume that 1980's Wings ( Like my 1200) had JIS screws, even though they were manufactured in Marysville, USA .

What about modern GL1800's ?? ( made in Japan)... and if different ... in which year was the break point ?

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Secondly , I often use just screwdriver tips in a magnetic driver ( saves tool box space )

Where can I get a cheaper JIS magnetic tip only set ( for my classes Wing ) ?


--- Instead of trying to grind down some Phillips tips ?--- LOL

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Re: Japanese Industrial Standard Screwdriver - How to make

Post by MikeB » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:53 pm

All the wings old and new have JIS screws.

You can get the bits and screwdrivers at Cyclemax of Ohio
http://cyclemax.com/inc/searchresults?s ... is&n=54767


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