Moly Paste


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I use the Honda Moly 60... I even tried a heavy duty type grease on the splines but I chickened out and replace it with moly paste... My question is,, anyone ever use the Locktite stuff, it's suppose to be 65% Moly...Hummm :shock: https://www.google.com/search?q=moly+pa ... QsAQ&dpr=1



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Does everyone use Honda 60 paste? http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html

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I us Castrol and Comma moly grease at about 6 quid, available everywhere, and works as good as Honda MO. Honda moly costs over 20 quid here, and it is so few and far between it has to be posted too...sod that!!!. Honda moly is not worth that much.
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I use the Loctite Moly Paste 51048.

Purchased several tins in a bulk buy some time ago, and distributed among forum members on another website. http://www.australiancx.asn.au (free plug) The site is for CX500, CX650's etc - which have a similar shaft drive etc.

Have never used anything else - but have only needed to use this on my CX500 custom and the Goldwing after purchasing another rear flange. IT will last my lifetime easily - it was a 8oz plastic tin with an applicator brush.

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I use the Honda Moly 60. I never saw a reason to use anything else.
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littlebeaver wrote:Does everyone use Honda 60 paste? http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html
Many shops - even factory shops for other manufacturers - use the Honda moly paste, not officially of course. :)

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littlebeaver wrote:Does everyone use Honda 60 paste? http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html
I use the Honda Moly.Yes it is expensive,but you don't need much either.It goes a long ways.Might try the Loctite need time I need some if it's easier to get my hands on.
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I started with my first tube of Honda moly 60 @$9.
After finding the tube was 1/3 full, researched and went to the Locktite and haven't looked back. It stays in place.
littlebeaver wrote:I use the Honda Moly 60... I even tried a heavy duty type grease on the splines but I chickened out and replace it with moly paste... My question is,, anyone ever use the Locktite stuff, it's suppose to be 65% Moly...Hummm :shock: https://www.google.com/search?q=moly+pa ... QsAQ&dpr=1

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Hey fellas, if I wasn't all nosey and such, I would never learn anything...I know I can been annoying at times but I'm either learning stuff or sharing stuff....I may just try this locktite stuff just to try it... It's out of the norm... :D

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You may well stick with it, you can have confidence in it.
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I can't speak for the "why" Honda decided to market its own Moly Paste (making money I suppose). As long as you are using a "grease" that has similar Molybdenum Disulphide in it as the Honda Brand (60% I suppose by the name), I can't see where there would be any adverse performance in the replacement grease. The "active" ingredient is the important part. Molybdenum Disulphide is one of the best "solid" lubricants on the planet. It resists compression loads very well, and that's probably the reason it works so well on splines. More important than what you use, in my opinion anyway, is that you actually clean and grease the splines REGULARLY... lack of lubrication will cause small amounts of metal to rub off, flake off or corrode to the point of becoming an abrasive causing more and more damage as time passes.

We use a "MolyKote" product (I think that's how it is spelled) called "GN-Paste" which is a high Moly content "grease" that looks a lot like Honda-60 grease... my guess is Honda doesn't make grease and they probably buy their grease from some other company with a pretty Honda label slapped on the tubes.

If you find a product that performs well, I say use it.. regardless of the name on the label.. and then share your results with the rest of us. I didn't even know LocTite made a moly grease...
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Apart from the metal bits that they make in their factories, Honda doesn't make most of the "Honda" stuff. Belts? Hoses? All outside manufacturers. The Honda Spray Cleaner that everyone loves so much (including non-Honda people, and even custom car buffs) is made by an outside company. Same goes for the Honda Moly grease - Honda does not have a grease factory. :)

That said, they can easily specify the standards required by their bikes to an outside manufacturer, and the manufacturer will make it to those standards. The manufacturer is not going to try to silently change the formulation to save a few bucks, while actually reducing the efficacy of the product, because Honda would drop them as a supplier. The same can't be said for manufacturers selling to retail. They can (and do) reformulate their products, often to save a few bucks in costs.

The Loctite product may be a very good product. Will it meet the standards tomorrow? Who knows? I know the Honda product will.

A perfect example is Fram filters. When I was a kid, Fram made the best filters on the market. Today, Fram are the bottom of the barrel, cheaply made and barely effective filters made offshore for the lowest cost possible. They still look exactly the same - bright orange filters. How can you tell that it still meets the standards required by your application?

I can guarantee, that if Honda is selling a filter branded with their name on it, that filter is going to meet whatever standard Honda deems necessary for their engines. There may very well be better filters on the market. But how do you know? And how do you know it will stay that way?

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So basically don't change what ain't broke..? Kinda like Coca Cola and their brilliant idea of making a new coke... :shock: Crashed and burned..

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Is this a viable grease to use?



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Picture doesn't show % concentration of Molybdenum. Needs to be 60% or higher.
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I have spent the last several hours following a forum on the ST 1300 pages one of their members was recommended to use Dupont GN paste in place of Molly 60.. https://www.dupont.com/products/molykote-pastes.html

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DaRamblerman wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:44 pm
I have spent the last several hours following a forum on the ST 1300 pages one of their members was recommended to use Dupont GN paste in place of Molly 60.. https://www.dupont.com/products/molykote-pastes.html
What is the Moly content?
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DaRamblerman wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:44 pm
I have spent the last several hours following a forum on the ST 1300 pages one of their members was recommended to use Dupont GN paste in place of Molly 60.. https://www.dupont.com/products/molykote-pastes.html
I pulled up the MSDS for MolyKote G-N. It lists the moly content as between 14-18%. Nowhere near enough for this application. You should be looking for a moly content of 60% minimum.

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DaRamblerman wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:41 pm
Is this a viable grease to use?Extreme moly grease.jpg
I'm unable to find an MSDS for that STP grease, but usually those generic "moly grease" produts have only a few percent moly in them. High moly lubricants like the ones required for our bike spline drives generally say that they are high moly, and show a percentage. 60% should be considered the minimum acceptable.



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