New replacement stator for GL1000, GL1100, GL1200

[WingAdmin]

I see that Randakk's is now selling a replacement, aftermarket stator for four-cylinder Wings.

Being from Randakk's, I would assume it is of superior quality to most replacement stators. It is supposed to put out more power as well - rated for 350 watts at 4,000 RPM. OEM is rated for 300 watts at 5,000 RPM.

http://randakks.com/collections/ignitio ... and-gl1200

[deanbw]

Yea it's all good, I know people buy his O-ring sets for more than stock Honda parts cost and that is supposed to make them better, but the bottom line is, it is still a Chinese stator. I would rather get a Ricky stator as I have for other bikes and never had a problem, or have one re-wound before I bought something made by a 9year old.
I could be wrong....as I've said, I've been wrong before, I got married once.

[mrtwowheel]

"leading Asian manufacturer of motorcycle electronic components", that would be Denso in Japan, wouldn't it? Heck of a good price, and competitive to Rick's prices. I bought one of Rick's and then decided to do the automotive alternator conversion instead, sold it on ebay, the harness plug was wood or cork. Rick's rotors for some other Hondas have no competition for quality.

Scott

[deanbw]

"leading Asian manufacturer of motorcycle electronic components", that would be Denso in Japan, wouldn't it? Heck of a good price, and competitive to Rick's prices. I bought one of Rick's and then decided to do the automotive alternator conversion instead, sold it on ebay, the harness plug was wood or cork. Rick's rotors for some other Hondas have no competition for quality.

Scott

Thing is, when I read his ad I see the word "Asian" and that tells me chinese, if he had it made in Japan he would say that. More than that if it was Japan it would not be 100 bucks.
Buy what you want, I am past buying cheap parts, it doesn't pay.

[Right Winger]

"leading Asian manufacturer of motorcycle electronic components", that would be Denso in Japan, wouldn't it? Heck of a good price, and competitive to Rick's prices. I bought one of Rick's and then decided to do the automotive alternator conversion instead, sold it on ebay, the harness plug was wood or cork. Rick's rotors for some other Hondas have no competition for quality.

Scott

Thing is, when I read his ad I see the word "Asian" and that tells me chinese, if he had it made in Japan he would say that. More than that if it was Japan it would not be 100 bucks.
Buy what you want, I am past buying cheap parts, it doesn't pay.

Amen to that . I wouldn't give either one a second look . It's Custom Rewind for me or nothing at all . I refuse to let a dime hold up a dollar.

[Randakk]

Lot's of misinformation and speculation posted above.

[WingAdmin]

Lot's of misinformation and speculation posted above.

I agree. Care to clear it up?

[Randakk]

Lot's of misinformation and speculation posted above.

I agree. Care to clear it up?

Not really. The product resulted from extensive R&D and is honestly described here:

http://randakks.com/products/upgraded-s ... and-gl1200

I believe it represents a good value relative to available products in the marketplace. Beyond that, anything else I might care to comment on bleeds into areas I consider trade secrets.

[Right Winger]

Well to each his own . Until you hear the words (And I quote) You must have installed it wrong there is no quarantee sorry . 140.00 down the drain and still have to buy another stator and spend a whole day and a half (longer for some people) I can replace a stator as well as anybody

I am pretty handy with a wrench, I have been an auto mechanic for most of my life . I started working on bikes while in my early twentys . Im in my early sixties now . And for someone to tell me I must have installed it wrong just cut me to the core . And they have my hard earned money to boot

ONCE BURNED TWICE SHY By the way that was the first stator I installed that only lasted 15 minutes

[mrtwowheel]

I've never bought or dealt with Randakk's, I have no opinion about quality or place of origin, I can very well respect his not giving information about a product that he worked hard to bring to market. I do have an opinion on warranties and returns on electronic parts, I just lost $100 to an electronics TV supplier.

Scott

[WingAdmin]

I've never bought or dealt with Randakk's, I have no opinion about quality or place of origin, I can very well respect his not giving information about a product that he worked hard to bring to market. I do have an opinion on warranties and returns on electronic parts, I just lost $100 to an electronics TV supplier.

Scott

I have owned a company that sourced our manufacturing (of an electronic device) to China, simply because it was not economically feasible to do otherwise (the factory in China was able to produce the units for about 1/5th the cost of the cheapest US-based factory).

We had some QA issues, wherein about one out of ten units arrived DOA. However, with a rigorous QA and testing process, we were able to validate each unit before it was shipped, and as a result we never once had one come back as defective.

So it's entirely possible that Randakk's is sourcing these units from China; that is purely speculation on my part. That said, Randakk's has a reputation for very high quality products, so I'm fairly sure that anything that they are shipping is going to be inspected first, and will have to meet their standards for quality. Saving a few dollars on manufacturing is not worth your company's reputation.

That said, the problem is one of economics: I would have loved for my company to source our units from a US manufacturer. The fact is, even the cheapest US manufacturer we could find would have caused the unit to be so expensive for us to make that we would not have sold virtually any of them.

[redbug]

My first thought on the stator from randakk's was wow another 50 watts, that's a heated vest with a collar. Then the lights came on and realized this is at 4000 rpm. Perfect on the two lane roads at a cruising speed. I had seen this stator at his website and said cool, I know where the replacement is coming from but never read the fact sheet on it. It's all there for you to read. I know he took the time and searched and figured out how to get the fifty at 4 grand and find a way to have it produced and made with a fair price with quality control. First of you must remember he is gold wing engines and a few others. One of the few gurus out there on wings, especially 1000,1100,1200. His website has so much info on fuel systems is unbelievable. Now his carburetor kits (O-rings)come from many Asian country's all the rubber will with stand corn fuel and made for fuel related systems. Yes you can get them at Honda one at a time, there are no kits from Honda.
Any small independent business man that takes the time to train and authorize a few people to do rebuilds on carburetors and the people that take the time to do this is alright with me. This is all he does. Well read his site, he does more. He does not comprise on quality in my eyes. His spin on oil filter adaptor for instance is in the ball park, and he will tell you how it was made. Admin has the voltage regulator replacement (which I have installed ) and he took the time to find a replacement make it do what it is supposed to do, color wire matched, soldered ends, and perform as needed. You can get a phone call email text letter to randakk or admin and they will reply and help you.
Made in a Asian country, oh my. Some people seem to think Korea or China. Wikipedia list over 30 (I quit counting at 30) Asian country's and Japan is right in there. Clean air, corporate taxes, osha, city tax, county tax business tax, overregulated oops sorry no more politics. Wonder why they double the import tax on sugar to the U.S.A.?
In 1986 I purchased a new Harley and put 268,000 miles on her, and three stators were put on at different times. Still that way today. There high output stator kit is only 300.00,funny its only 350 watts. And those stators are made in a Asian country.
Now why would randakk go to all this trouble to offer a stator? He saw a need and went out to find a cure? Maybe complaints or whinning from other gw people? Wanting to get rich and retire? Trying to find a better way to create a product that is needed for a limited crowd of people? Dedicated or a passion or I cant stand still attitude? How about the gl 1500 shifter repair? Suspension products. All this for a 30 plus year old motorcycle.
I had never known of rickystator,so I went to his website and I was impressed with the products he has for sale and even rewind service. Started in his garage. Caters to the off-road guys for more power for off road lighting. Nice shop and real people doing the rewind stuff. amazing a service like this today still in business. So there is a need. Didn't see a 1100 stator for sale on his Honda list ,but that doesn't mean he wont rewind one for you.
I have never met or talked to randakk, just order stuff from his site. I do believe he saw a problem and he came up with a solution. To me the price is fair. His reputation is on the line, why would anyone jeopardize that. Word of mouth is a powerful tool. Mechanics don't stand a chance. I really only want to do a stator once. I will go with a randakk stator first.
Besides , kind of nice to see a U.S.A postage once in a while.

[mrtwowheel]

These things come to mind while reading this thread. Like it or not, this is a global economy. Parts for these older bikes are getting more scarce as time goes by. I can see most of these parts drying up in about two years with the way that the used parts market and ebay is selling. After these parts dry up, remanufactured parts will be at a premium price if available, no matter what the quality. So, enjoy it while it lasts, which may not be too much longer.

Scott

[Right Winger]

These things come to mind while reading this thread. Like it or not, this is a global economy. Parts for these older bikes are getting more scarce as time goes by. I can see most of these parts drying up in about two years with the way that the used parts market and ebay is selling. After these parts dry up, remanufactured parts will be at a premium price if available, no matter what the quality. So, enjoy it while it lasts, which may not be too much longer.

Scott

I have been hearing this for the last twenty years or so. There will be parts around for these mechines a lot longer than two years from now . There may never be a company that will be reproducing replacement parts . But as sure as there people like us we will find a way to keep these dinosaurs alive.

People (like myself) will always find parts from something else that will work. We hear it all the time parts from a 1500 working on our 1200s. so on and so forth . I have three 1200s and i'm not worried one bit

[mrtwowheel]

Yeah, I've seen the Mad Max movie too.

Scott

[spiralout]

Yeah, I've seen the Mad Max movie too.

Scott

[Foaham]

What really matters is if something works and holds up just because something is made in china does not mean it won't be good quality the iphone is made in china and people love it

[Old Fogey]

I was just going to let this one run and run, but here's my 0.002 cents worth.
The stator in my bike is from Taiwan, through one of the biggest supplier of bike parts in UK and Europe. Initially, the price was too good to ignore, so I went to them and asked 'was it was made in China?'. The reply was ,' yes technically as Taiwan is part of China, but that's where the similarity ends'. So I bought it, as Taiwanese stuff has always been good. The price and quality couldn't be beaten and I have no worries about it.
As for the product in question, most of you will know that I deal with Randakk and use his parts exclusively in my carb rebuilds. He is anal about his products and about protecting his intellectual property, quite rightly. I don't know where he sources it from, and I really don't care because of this, but his would be the go-to part should I ever need to replace mine, without any hesitation.