Opinions On Shell T5


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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by AZgl1800 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:34 pm



as I have mentioned, I am using T6 in 5w40 in the GL1800, and yes, the 5w is only important for the first few minutes of operation... that is evidenced if you will read the oil report I have attached, the 2nd block where it shows the viscosity values.

The following is a sample tested for my 2007 Pontiac Vibe, it had an extended oil run on it at 15,610 miles... an oops on my part, because of my wife's extended hospital stay, and then when she passed, I went into the doldrums for six months....

Finally had it changed out to Mobil-1 5w20 which was what I thought it had in it before, but nope, the shop told me they put Valvoline it last year.
( 5w20 is GM Spec )

Sent in a sample of the old oil, and they correctly identified it as Valvoline and commented that while a tad high for iron and Aluminium that it was "within expected values for the mileage run"

He said that if I want to stay at 15,000 miles it would be "okay" but that most of their synthetic oil reports are done at 6,100 mile national average.

So, guess I will watch and try to change it at a more reasonable mileage point.

I called in pretty late in the day, and a lab technician answered the call.
Pretty interesting guy, he owns a CB-750 and an older MotoGuzzi also.

I asked him about motorcycle oil tests, and he told me that by far and away, that Shell Rotella T5 and T6 are the Most Popular synthetic oils in use for motorcycles.

Couldn't get him to say "which oil is the best" :mrgreen:


just for a frame of reference, he said that the Sodium, Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphate content identified the oil as Valvoline along with the other additives. Said it stuck out like a sore thumb to the lab boys...

Nice guy to talk to, enjoyed my visit with him.

see the oil report attached















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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by gervais » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:34 pm

i will never use 5w20 ,
this oil is used in modern engine that are manufactured tighter in clearance that they use to be.

i have been using for years,all year long 5w50 Castrol Syntech in all my engine EXCEPT my Rhino and GW.

they dont like oil with friction additive because clucthes are working with,,,,,,,,,,,friction.

As a recommandation i am using T4 15w40 and so far ok.

The 5 is mostly for immediate oil pressure Cold engine ,,very cold like in Artic and even then there is a new grade i saw 0W40 .

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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by minimac » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:58 am

I've been using the Rotella T-6 in my 'Wing and my scooters for years. It's not that expensive, and from my personal-unscientific- research, I feel it's the best. For the less than $15 an oil +filter change(I do my own) I think it is cheap insurance. I usually change @ 5-6K miles, but have gone 10K on occasion.

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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by curtm » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:43 pm

minimac, i agree with all you said, not sure why people are so cought up $15.00 a quart oil when old dino oil like rotella works fine for $12 a gallon.
just my thought

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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by themainviking » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:34 am

823JIM wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:49 pm

I do not have the official printed Honda Service Manual but everything I that have says 10W40 even the Owners Manual, that is also what the local Honda dealer puts in for a typical oil change on a GL1800. If what you say is true Honda has done a very poor job of getting the proper information out to the manual printers and the general public. But I guess that's what these forums are for is to pass on information as we understand it.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/80515 ... 134#manual
On page 1 of this manual it shows to be a copywrited Honda publication


"The shift from the 10W-40 specification to the 10W-30 specification occurred I *think* between the 06 and 07 model years (or maybe 05 and 06). At any rate, there was no change to the engine during that shift. Honda simply went from specifying a 40-weight to specifying a 30-weight." Quote from bobistheoilguy, forum.
Just found this information, my bike is an 03. The difference in what year information was printed makes for a different spec. for same engine.
If you had moved one page further in your online manual, to page 135, you would have seen the chart that shows the three different weights of oils mentioned previously, by ambient temperature. I will say one thing about 10W40. It does not like the 2009 bikes very well. Do not even ask why only 2009, but several of us with 2009 models have had sprague clutch sticking problems when starting at 40 F or below. I use full synthetic, and still experienced these problems with the first start of the day not engaging fully, first and even second try. Just a spinning starter. This does not happen with 10W30, of the same brand oil.
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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by 823JIM » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:26 pm

themainviking wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:34 am
823JIM wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:49 pm

I do not have the official printed Honda Service Manual but everything I that have says 10W40 even the Owners Manual, that is also what the local Honda dealer puts in for a typical oil change on a GL1800. If what you say is true Honda has done a very poor job of getting the proper information out to the manual printers and the general public. But I guess that's what these forums are for is to pass on information as we understand it.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/80515 ... 134#manual
On page 1 of this manual it shows to be a copywrited Honda publication


"The shift from the 10W-40 specification to the 10W-30 specification occurred I *think* between the 06 and 07 model years (or maybe 05 and 06). At any rate, there was no change to the engine during that shift. Honda simply went from specifying a 40-weight to specifying a 30-weight." Quote from bobistheoilguy, forum.
Just found this information, my bike is an 03. The difference in what year information was printed makes for a different spec. for same engine.
If you had moved one page further in your online manual, to page 135, you would have seen the chart that shows the three different weights of oils mentioned previously, by ambient temperature. I will say one thing about 10W40. It does not like the 2009 bikes very well. Do not even ask why only 2009, but several of us with 2009 models have had sprague clutch sticking problems when starting at 40 F or below. I use full synthetic, and still experienced these problems with the first start of the day not engaging fully, first and even second try. Just a spinning starter. This does not happen with 10W30, of the same brand oil.

My point was to show the page that said what the "Recommended oil" is in the manual, not a chart that shows "Other viscosities shown in the following chart may be used". If in your colder climate 10w40 may not be what you want, but the manual does say it is the recommended viscosity for my '03.
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Re: Opinions On Shell T5

Post by POPPY'S WING » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:57 pm

Hello everyone. I use Rotella T6 5w40 in my 99 1500, so did the PO. I changed my 1800 A few weeks ago,put in the same OIL. I have no problems with it. Just my 2¢ worth.



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