Starting engines manually


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Moosehead
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Starting engines manually

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I've done this plenty of times before with a car but never thought to try it on a bike. Imagine if a draw was left on the battery or possibly the starter blew, but for some reason there's not enough juice to turn over the engine. Would it be possible to do a rolling push start by getting it rolling up to speed, popping the clutch while it's turned ON and it's in gear? Has anyone tried that?



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Sure...use second or third gear. Good luck if you don't have a helper or are not facing downhill.

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Did that all the time back in the day. It was faster, more convenient on the old kick-start bikes. But they were smaller than a Wing. We'd just take a couple strides along side the bike, hop on, pop the clutch and we'd be at 30 mph in an instant. But at my age, and the weight of the Wing... amen on the use of a helper or downhill.

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I did that for a few days on my '94SE until payday, and a new battery was installed.

my driveway had a nice slope downhill, I made a point to back in, so I could roll out of the garage and let the clutch out near the bottom.... 2nd gear.
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Moosehead wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:10 pm
I've done this plenty of times before with a car but never thought to try it on a bike. Imagine if a draw was left on the battery or possibly the starter blew, but for some reason there's not enough juice to turn over the engine. Would it be possible to do a rolling push start by getting it rolling up to speed, popping the clutch while it's turned ON and it's in gear? Has anyone tried that?
Yes it is possible.
Depends though....

What bike(s???) are you asking on? Are there symptoms you are having to ask this?


Modern Fuel injection bikes needs 11 volts to run.
Low battery voltage will kill your ride.

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If you need a little extra traction for the rear wheel it can help to stand up a little on the pegs and drop your butt on the seat hard when you pop the clutch.
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Yes it is possible.
Depends though....

What bike(s???) are you asking on? Are there symptoms you are having to ask this?


Modern Fuel injection bikes needs 11 volts to run.
Low battery voltage will kill your ride.
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I have a 1982 Goldwing GL1100 Standard. It's carbureted, currently with a new battery. It starts and runs fine.
The reason I ask is in the event that I cause the battery to drain without it charging, such as using the radio for too long with the engine off, I want reassurance that I can get going again without having to call for a tow.

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Re: Starting engines manually

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Put a volt meter on your bike so you can monitor the volts.
Don't leave your radio on for any length of time. They will drain your battery fast.
Yes you can bump start your 1100. I did it on my 83 1100.
2nd or 3rd gear is better to bump start.
If below 10 volts you may be out of luck.
Make sure your charging system is fully operational and tests are done on it.
Is your white connector next to the battery w/3 yellow wires burnt?

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The bikes rely on sufficient battery voltage in order to excite the coils and generate spark.

The 1100 will run without battery if the engine RPM is kept high enough that the regulator produces high enough voltage to keep the plugs sparking. It will not idle, and you'd have to be rolling at quite a speed to spin the engine fast enough to get it to start.

The 1500 is such a power hog in terms of power required to generate spark, I would not want to try to get it started with a dead battery this way.

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You might want to read through this thread: Push Start Goldwing



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