Wingleader Converter


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speedy04
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Wingleader Converter

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My uncle found a Drag Specialties Wingleader Converter in his garage circa 1984. If you're not familiar with this little toy it makes any light into a running light AND turn signal regardless of how the light started. It's a nice little toy. I installed it so that the light bar on my trunk and the wrap around bumper will now double as blinkers as well as running lights. No doubt as to when I'm turning day or night. It went in supper easy and works great with one little hitch. I've put in LED's in all my lights so I no longer worry about electricity draw. It does however cause the whole set up to have a slight flicker. Should I consider putting a resister in to take that flicker out?



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Re: Wingleader Converter

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Did you get the instructions with it?
The name of 'converter' , and no pictures of it, is the reason you probably haven't gotten an answer.
I've never seen one of these 'converters'...

Resistors are old school, outdated technology, that is for turn signals that do not have a swapped out turn flasher relay for LEDs. They add resistance(heat and power draw) to make an old thermal flasher work at the proper flash rate. If you haven't changed your turn flasher relay out for an electronic flasher that is where you need to start and get rid of and resistors you may have put on the bike. Resistors negate any power savings of LEDs.

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Re: Wingleader Converter

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No pic is fair, I tend to not even look at a post without a pic of what is in question. Yes Newday777 I have the instructions. It was installed per the installation instructions. It works just fine. My entire bike has been changed over to LEDs ( dash, head, tail, blinkers, and both light kits). I even replaced the fairing and bag reflectors with LED lights. I have an electronic flasher since the old mechanical one cannot be used with LEDs. I would get some feed back ( not sure what else to call it) through to indicator light on the dash when I would brake. By that I mean they would be faintly illuminating during braking. Easy enough to ignore since no other issues showed up and all worked just fine. This is all because the draw from the LEDs is so much less than an incandescent build there is some leakage. Wingadmin has even noted it in a few posts. Now with this converter installed one half of my back end blinks as it should, but the other side will also flutter ever so subtly like a quick blink except while I am braking. That seems to cause enough draw to stop the flicker. The converter was not designed with LEDs in mind so if to don’t use a resistor to increase the load in the circuit I am open to other ideas.
Keep in mind that this is on a 82 GL1100A. So the main reason to switch over to LEDs was power consumption. At idol I would be down to around 9-10v with all the extra lights and the stereo on. Now I can idol and be at 14.3v with everything on and the stereo just blasting.
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newday777
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Re: Wingleader Converter

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Start looking for a bad ground in the back end circuits...not just at the bulbs.

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Re: Wingleader Converter

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Newday777 I don't think it's a bad ground, but I'll run every wire and check each of the sockets. The issue is only when I "turn on" my blinkers with the light kits. All my lights function as running lights and blinkers,I have no issues when they are used as running lights. The flickering issue is also not exclusive to just one side. If I use the left blinker, the right side will flicker and vise versa for the right side. It happens when the bike is running or not running and is consistent. I would expect a little more inconsistency if it was a bad ground.

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1975 CB750 K5 Planet Blue 7,800 miles

1976 CB750 K6 Anterris Red 25,000 miles

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1999SE Totaled by cager at 105,000 miles

Re: Wingleader Converter

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You do have a bad ground feed issue. Believe what you want....



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