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so American politics

Post by squirrel » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:26 pm



We ,over in the UK have been discussing ( in the pub) who will win and become your next president .and to be honest it seems to close to call . One word answers would be nice . But we understand if more are required .



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Re: so American politics

Post by golden highway » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:31 pm

Trump Trump give them a thump. This forum doesn't allow one word answers

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Re: so American politics

Post by PoolDude » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:08 pm

The scary part is that one of them will win. I never wanted a do-over so much in my entire life. :shock:

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Re: so American politics

Post by brettchallenger » Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:50 am

We were having a similar discussion to Squirrel's. The main consensus of opinion was that the USA, a country of over 300 millions souls, the biggest economy the world has ever seen, it has some of the most talented and educated people on the earth, a nation which put a man on the moon nearly 50 years ago, must surely be able to come up with something better than these these two as a choice.

But then someone pointed out how entertaining it all was. No dull as ditch water politics in this campaign. I doubt whether many people in the world know (or care) who the UK prime minister is, or any other country's for that matter. But come next Wednesday you can bet that even a pygmy living in a mud hut in Cameroon will know who the US president is.
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Re: so American politics

Post by themainviking » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:40 am

What comes to mind is the book "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire". It appears that Clinton may win. We in Canada see nothing good no matter which one wins. I will say what I always say to elections. Whoever votes in the winner deserves what they get. I feel sorry for the rest. Those that do not vote deserve no consideration at all. The same for those who vote for third party independents who have no chance as they are just throwing their vote in the trash. Democracy only works if the people work it, because the people no longer have a say once the election is over. Sorry, no short answer possible this election, as it is nothing but a mud slinging contest. It is what happens after the election that the rest of the world waits to see.

Oh - one other thing. People who want to escape to Canada if Trump wins are not welcome here, as they are just people who run from their problems. They would do the same from here. We already saw this phenomenon from Vietnam days.
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Re: so American politics

Post by Interstater55 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:49 am

themainviking wrote:What comes to mind is the book "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire". It appears that Clinton may win. We in Canada see nothing good no matter which one wins. I will say what I always say to elections. Whoever votes in the winner deserves what they get. I feel sorry for the rest. Those that do not vote deserve no consideration at all. The same for those who vote for third party independents who have no chance as they are just throwing their vote in the trash. Democracy only works if the people work it, because the people no longer have a say once the election is over. Sorry, no short answer possible this election, as it is nothing but a mud slinging contest. It is what happens after the election that the rest of the world waits to see.

Oh - one other thing. People who want to escape to Canada if Trump wins are not welcome here, as they are just people who run from their problems. They would do the same from here. We already saw this phenomenon from Vietnam days.
I agree that what we are witnessing is the beginning of the fall of the United States empire. Thanks to the Bern, who did his requested sheepdog role, he converted many of the unexpected millions of his supporters to the Hillary, problem for the Clinton campaign is that many of them did not convert. Bernie would have easily have defeated Trump. Now it's not so sure. And as far as not voting, consider the probability that many people will not vote so as to not engage in the corruption that is the quadrennial corrupt activity known as the US presidential election extravaganza. It is a selection, not an election, of the person who is allowed to run for that office by the elites that really run this country. And as far as a Democracy goes, it's actually after the election that citizens can make the real difference with protest, mass civil non-violent disobedience, petition the government etc. I believe it's time to remind our bought and paid for politicians who they are supposed to represent. From the fabricated Gulf of Tonkin incident to the present the ministries of propaganda (cbs, ABC, NBC, msnbc, CNN. Etc) the mass media have also done the citizens of the United States, and therefore the world, a massive disservice to put it mildly. Ok, if this actually gets posted, I'm sure I'll be on the nsa watch list if I'm not already. I think I should go for a ride on my goldwing while I still can!

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Post by ekvh » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:23 am

Too bad we've railroaded ourselves into thinking we have to vote for one of the two. Regardless, there will be pain to come because neither party could put forward a decent candidate. Going from almost debt free and almost no deficit spending in 1998, to 9 trillion in 2008, to 19 trillion today----- Something's gotta give. At around $60000 per American. Not insurmountable, but it doesn't appear that political leaders have the sack to tackle it. To concerned with being liked and getting re-elected. Zero interest and talk of negative interest loans???? I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you put me through the Spanish Inquisition. If I had money in the market, I'd be looking to get it out and somewhere safe for a while.

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Re: so American politics

Post by keithg64 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:01 am

I'll see if I can get this right. TRUMP - remove the T & P. RUM- making America great again.
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Re: so American politics

Post by golden highway » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:26 am

It's doesn't have to be the falling of America if you vote correctly it can be the rebirth of America.

Vote Trump for rebirth
Vote Killery for the collapse

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Re: so American politics

Post by Interstater55 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:39 am

keithg64 wrote:I'll see if I can get this right. TRUMP - remove the T & P. RUM- making America great again.
Now that's a party I could vote for!

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Re: so American politics

Post by golden highway » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:27 pm

Removing the T from Trump seems to work also.

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Re: so American politics

Post by Fiberthree » Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:27 pm

brettchallenger wrote: ...But come next Wednesday you can bet that even a pygmy living in a mud hut in Cameroon will know who the US president is.
I wonder if he wants a roomate?
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Re: so American politics

Post by suvcw04 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:19 pm

Trump. From my home in Iowa, I will be able to see the artificial suns bloom over Minneapolis, Chicago, St Louis and, eventually, Des Moines. Seeing the end in real time will be . . . . interesting.

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Post by detdrbuzzard » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:31 pm

one word: hosed, doesn't matter which one gets elected
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Post by cardinal » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:42 am

We keep saying we want some one who is not controlled by their party, is not obligated to big donors, not part of the "Politics as usual" group, but now that we have that choice......we will elect Hillary anyway.

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Re: so American politics

Post by Grindl » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:07 am

Not since the little store-keeper ; has America been led by a real-life business-man . The U.S. has been called the largest corporation in the world , and it has been led to the edge of the abyss of financial destruction and political collapse by politicians who have espoused the mantra of Saul Olinsky , Karl Marx and the progressive left , for the majority of the last 80-90 years .

How bout we give the "PEOPLE" credit for standing up and telling these corrupt Globalist , ENOUGH ! Enough of selling our grand-children into financial servitude to the Chinese , to push their Socialist agenda down our throats .
Enough ! Of depleting our military to the point we can't defend our nation .
Enough ! With allowing our borders to be a "Open Door" to terrorists and Drug Cartels .
Enough ! With two sets of rules . One for the Clintons , and another for everyone else .
Enough ! Of the Obama policies ; Of treating illegal ALIENS better than we treat our Veterans .

There's a lot more "Enoughs" , but I think you get the idea . "We the People" , are fed up . Period .

And to my Canadian Brethren ; I can tell you first-hand , that the same corrupt political machine that sent my generation to Vietnam , to fight "their" nation-building War , also welcomed those Draft-Dodgers home with open arms , while treating those who served in that God-forsaken nightmare , like Dogs , and criminals . Don't believe me ? Go ask Bill Ayres and his wife , Bernadine Dorn-Ayres . The darlings of the Clintons and Obamas , and the radical left . They prospered ; while Nam Vets stayed un-employed , homeless , and destitute for decades . American has turned the page on the Corrupt Clinton machine , and now has the job of un-doing the last eight years of Social Justice , Racial Antagonism , and divisive governing by what history has already decreed , as the worst U.S President in history . At least we now have a "First-Lady" who is immensely proud of her country , and to be a citizen of this nation . Oh yeah.......She is a "L-E-G-A-L- immigrant from a Communist Dictatorship . And she came through the front door . Not sneaking across the Arizona border in the dark of the night .

Time for a real business-man to run the "Corporation" !

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Re: so American politics

Post by brettchallenger » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:18 am

Well you have done a Brexit (of sorts). I wonder who will be lining up to punish you for it, like the Germans/French/Obama are trying to punish us.
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Re: so American politics

Post by wilmo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:26 pm

themainviking wrote:W..... The same for those who vote for third party independents who have no chance as they are just throwing their vote in the trash.
That is so totally wrong. Throwing away your vote is voting for someone you don't want just for the sake of voting. I HATE both of them, no good can come from this election regardless of winner, which is why I voted for a 3rd party candidate and I truly wanted that candidate to win. Throwing my vote away would have been to vote for either one of them just because one was sure to win even though neither are worthy of my vote.

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Re: so American politics

Post by harvey01 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:34 pm

Well the answer as to who will be President is resolved. Now hopefully the first effect on a foreign country will be when all of those liberals who said they would move to Canada get their little butts across the northern border. To my friends in Canada, I am sorry they may be headed your way, but if they are not happy here, then they should move elsewhere! Seems that a lot of them will be coming from Hollywood!
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Re: so American politics

Post by squirrel » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:23 pm

We are back in the pub . The general consensus is we wish you all the best of luck .but someone mentioned that Obama stays and helps for a few months .is this correct

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Post by wilmo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:37 pm

Until January 3 or so I believe, that is when his term officially ends. Help out? nah, why change now?

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Post by Fiberthree » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:25 am

Grindl wrote:
...Time for a real business-man to run the "Corporation" !
How many times did he file bankrupt?
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Post by dingdong » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:38 am

squirrel wrote:We are back in the pub . The general consensus is we wish you all the best of luck .but someone mentioned that Obama stays and helps for a few months .is this correct
He remains president until January 20th. Inauguration day.
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Re: so American politics

Post by Grindl » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:24 pm

Failing in business ; and filing for Bankruptcy is not , and has never been a crime in this nation . Using the laws of our nation to reduce your tax burden is not a crime . Ask Warren Buffet or George Soros , or Obama's golf buddy Geoff Imeldt . Wealthy people use the law to their benefit whenever possible . Had you paid attention in Civics and Govt. & Economics classes , you would know this , and not be so snarky about using your "Talking Point" , supplied by the DNC . President-elect Trump created a multi-billion dollar corporation AFTER those bankruptcies . A real "Loser" ; in your eyes , huh ?

Having been formerly involved in Special Operations during my military service ; had I mis-handled any , even "Classified" documents , let alone any Secret or Top Secret documents , I would have been subject to Courts-Martial under the U.C.M.J. , and up to Twenty years in FT. Leavenworth - D.B. , at hard labor . I have been forced to sit and watch the corrupt DoJ white-wash this whole Clinton e-mail travesty .. Nothin to see here . Just move along ...move along . Are you freakin kidding me ? Even the most twisted ideologue has to understand the CRIME committed here . The fact that those on the left seem to think "THAT kind of behavior is completely acceptable , is totally abhorrent to me , as a combat veteran .

And Mrs. Clinton stood in front of a Gold Star Mother at Dover AFB , with that women's Sons dead body just feet away , and LIED straight to her face , without batting a eye-lash . "It's all about the video".... And "Shrillery " , knew she was lying to that woman . "After all ! At this point , What difference does it matter"? It matters a lot....to the four heroes killed at Benghazi ! And their families ......... And it should matter to you , too .

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