Aftermarket replacement for GL1500 fuel pump


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Aftermarket replacement for GL1500 fuel pump

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The NAPA P72190 fuel pump (around $60) along with the NAPA FS0009 ($8) fuel strainer will work, with very minor modifications, as an acceptable aftermarket replacement for the $285 fuel pump assembly from Honda.






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I can do this for the 88? What "minor" modification did you have to do?
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I haven't done this on my GL1500, but others who have had to modify the mount slightly to get it to mount to the fuel pump mounting arm inside the tank.
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What kind of fuel pressure are we needing ?
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RacerM95 wrote:What kind of fuel pressure are we needing ?
Don't know. It's not shown as a specification value in the manuals, just the flow. I suppose it does take a certain amount of pressure to push a given volume of fuel over a given time (flow).
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Just curious as AEM has a couple really nice in-tank replacement pumps... I have their 50-1000 Pump, capable of 85 gph, @43 psi.
on a 1990 Audi Coupe Quattro, works very well. AEM claims it will feed up to 1,000 hp (not that the Wing is capable of that mark)
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Was wondering, when you change to the aftermarket pump, do you need a piece of fuel hose that is OK to put in the tank where it will get soaked in gas? Such as the Napa H209. Kind of pricy... $32+ a foot.
http://www.berrysweb.com/1500_fuel_pump.htm
Berrysweb says you need a foot of fuel hose but doesn't specify the kind...
I ordered the Napa P72190 Pump and FS009 filter.
When I do it I'll try and remember to take pictures for this site....
Just bought the Gates 27093 submersible fuel hose on e-bay for under $20 and free shipping, that'll work.
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OK I did the conversion to the Napa Fuel Pump and took a 200 mile ride on Sunday. Worked like a champ. No issues anyway.
It's a easy fix. I used the rubber round holder that came with the pump. It fits just a little loose around the pump but snugs up nicely in the bracket. The little piece that sticks out fit perfect in the recess located in the clamp. I used two aviation ring connectors and aviation grade crimpers for the wiring terminals. I took a picture before the fuel hose was installed. It came a couple of days later.
If one had a 5/16" elbow or a short piece of 5/16" tubing the original fuel hose will work and a 1 foot piece of hose will not have to be purchased. The original is about 1-2 inches to short. Will have to post the picture later. Sorry about that.
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I'm interested in seeing those pictures!
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Some pictures I hope....
Everything laid out, old and new.


Wires marked for cutting, + and -.


Shows rubber collar that came with the pump. Clamps in nicely.


New pump installed and wired. Black line shows where the new fuel hose will go. It wound up laying against the bracket and no sharp turn to kink the hose.


Almost 700 miles already and working like a charm. Also used the Napa 3003 fuel filter. Lays in the pocket under the plastic where the old filter lived like a charm.
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Thank you for posting those pictures!
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Looks like a good alternative to the factory setup. Mine isn't giving me any issues at this point but that can always change.. My only issue with the aftermarket setup is fuel reserve. When the low fuel light is on how far can you go until it's dry? It doesn't look like it sits as low in the tank as the original?
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Sits at the same height. In fact the filter that fits on the end of the fuel pump was bent over touching the bottom of the tank.Only way to know for sure is to put 2 gals in and put the line that goes to the fuel filter in a container and run it till the light comes on. Mark it and then run it till empty and see how much you get there. I very seldom run mine till the low fuel light comes on. When I emptied mine out using the old pump there was still about an 1" of fuel on the bottom of the tank. I didn't run the new one to see how far it took the level down.
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here's another link with more info and more pics same thing..note different pump but he notes in his link the Napa pump is a newer upgrade.. also the file is download-able as a acrobat file..look at the bottom of his article.

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/10- ... y-fix.html

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I have put about 3k on my new fuel pump and the bike runs like a fine tuned sewing machine...
When I replaced the pump I bought the Fuel hose, Gates submersible fuel hose #27093 for $20 on eBay. $30 in the parts store.
Since then while replacing a fuel pump in a BMW, I found this fuel hose which is submersible and meets the SAE 30R10 rating.

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/BMW-Ho ... osekit.htm

Plus it comes with two sections and clamps for $13 web price. Who would have thought finding something cheap for a Beemer... :o
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Thanks for everyone's responses. I went ahead and installed it myself since I hadn't heard back from the mechanic as to when he could do it. Wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be, the hardest part was getting the breather hose off. I used the Airtex pump with the elbow and new pickup screen. Got it back in hit the start button and it started shooting gas, good to go.
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Re: Aftermarket replacement for GL1500 fuel pump

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Hi Gents,
I know this "topic" was posted a long time ago!

I received my CARTER P72190 fuel pump today from RockAuto USA (I live in South Africa). It seems the CARTER P72190 replaced the NAPA P72190? - Looks identical, I think it is the same thing, just name change, now made in China.

At RockAuto I could not find a strainer for the CARTER pump. However, "WingAdmin" in this topic referred to the NAPA FS0009 strainer. I could not find this part but after searching I found an Airtex FS0009 strainer that looks identical to the strainer (photo) "WingAdmin" posted. I assume this is again just a "name change".
Just 2 questions: - A) How "sensitive" are pumps to strainers, by that I mean, fuel is fuel (petrol) and the strainer needs to filter the fuel to the same extend before entering the pump, irrespective of make of car/bike? (of course the shape of strainer & connection diameter must "suit" the pump & tank). B). The NAPA/AIRTEX FS0009 strainer (photo) shows the strainer "connects" to the pump just by "press fit" - am I correct? The strainers I found in South Africa so far has a smaller diameter connection and fitted with a metal clamp.

Thank you, Johann
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Amazon has it. If you haven't purchased the pump yet I have an extra pump brand new in the box if you would like to purchase it
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you need the STS-8 Fuel Pump strainer
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Re: Aftermarket replacement for GL1500 fuel pump

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Hi "JPochron",

Thank you for your reply. As mentioned in my previous post, I received my new CARTER P72190 pump yesterday. But thank you for your offer, I will check with the local GoldWing club if anybody needs a new pump and will be in contact with you.
Thank you for the information regarding the fuel strainer. I just now ordered the CARTER STS-8 strainer.
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you're welcome anytime


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