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troussos wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:33 am
<...>I was contemplating buying a used escapade or cycle mate trailer, but my son-in-law in Seattle is trying to talk me out of it to save me the money, saying all my needs will be met on the road and I should put my money there. Thoughts?
Remember, if your bike doesn't have one, you'll need a hitch and wiring to tow a trailer. Some (like me) realize a tail-bag (on the trailer hitch), along with the saddle bags work.
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Ok. Good to know when riding 2 up, but how about riding solo?
So, not necessarily on-topic for the original poster's question, but for someone that's one-up?

Search for "seat bag" or "tail bag" and begin searching for something that might be useful. This is strapped to the rear seat area; used in conjunction with saddlebag space.

I did a week-long ride with only the items I had in the two saddle-bags and trunk.

Find my earlier post and find the link for 'trip of a lifetime' planning.


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kind of depends on each riders needs and wants i could do on bike but wife always with me even though on her own ride just takes more stuff and it dry.

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we done week trip on bike 2 up she great packer ---i had to stand back when open sides get knocked down LOL.

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The wife and I took US 70 (Kingston Pike) from Rockwood to the end of it in Globe, AZ this last May. We then went up back roads to Williams and stayed at the Grand Canyon Railroad Hotel, rode the train, and came back. I was conservative, but never had any worries about fuel. Had to travel probably 50 miles total on interstates (I-55 crossing the Mississippi from Memphis, I-30 from Little Rock to Hot Springs exit and some I-10 in NM) because US70 is co-routed on the interstates in places. It really didn't bother me. BTW, US70 is Broadway in Nashville. We went through on a week day at around lunchtime. I think my foot touched the ground twice the whole way through. Memphis was not much worse, but they have a lot of screwy roads. Little Rock would probably not have been bad if a) it wasn't evening rush-hour and b) it wasn't pouring rain.

US70 through Arkansas was actually a little boring as was US 70 in Texas (75 MPH two-lane shot-and-chipped was a bit butt-clenching, however). US70 in NM became better as we went along, from cow shipping center on through Roswell and the White Sands area (breathtaking appearing on the horizon as a field of snow). We came back via US60 and it was interesting in NM (mountains on the horizons), Texas (wind farms), and Oklahoma (wind farms, oil and fracking wells mixed with agriculture) but not so hot in Missouri (flat, dust blowing, mega-farms with poor soil management mixed with urban sprawl).

None of it risked fuel issues on the '06 1800 (now with 121k miles) 2-up pulling a Uni-Go trailer. Oh, the trailer - great to be able to roll it into your room as luggage. We only carried rain gear and such in the saddlebags. But! Once the trailer is packed, go back through everything in it and remove at least half and leave that at home with someone that can ship it to you if really, really needed. Honest, the wife had several pairs of jeans in the bottom of the Uni-Go that never got unpacked. She took 5X what was needed and I took 2X. Even with everything we were wearing soaked by the second night's arrival in Hot Springs, we were able to use the hotel laundry to wash and dry most all of our clothing and hang the gear over the room register. Soggy boots were the only issue the next morning.

Apply heavy waterproofing to your footwear to protect the leather! Ours ended up ruined by the end of the trip because I had neglected this.

As we were riding down one of the lonely deserted stretches of US70 in New Mexico, not having seen another soul for tens of miles, I was so glad we were on a GoldWing!

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jimm4 wrote:
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we done week trip on bike 2 up she great packer ---i had to stand back when open sides get knocked down LOL.
The last few trips...also two-up, just the saddlebags & a Rivco rack with a bag on it:

(note: shown on a Harley trike, but same concept:)





One saddlebag had her stuff; one saddlebag had toolkit/compressor and our rain gear/heated gear storage.

The rack bag had my stuff, along with assorted other things...and a wee bit of room to bring stuff home.
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we rode 70 from lenoir city to hot springs then took i think 270 to right below ok city last may it nice ride in ok droped down rode 70 back east then down through texas and just look at map varouis rodes south to back home ---70 good road but like you say boring in ok . thinking of it then 66 out restof way not plan return.

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kwthom wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:33 pm

Search for "seat bag" or "tail bag" and begin searching for something that might be useful. This is strapped to the rear seat area; used in conjunction with saddlebag space.

I did a week-long ride with only the items I had in the two saddle-bags and trunk.

Find my earlier post and find the link for 'trip of a lifetime' planning.
You might be talking about something like this.
https://www.vikingbags.com/large-black- ... DIQAvD_BwE

or this:
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/802-19 ... k-seat-bag

There looks to be a few different models by Saddlemen.


I was thinking about something like this myself, but so far have not needed the extra space when solo and haven't gotten anything like it yet.
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That is an idea worth considering.
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how is the condition of the old rt66 west of ok

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jimm4 wrote:
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how is the condition of the old rt66 west of ok
The longest contiguous stretch of what used to be US-66 is in AZ.

Start reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_66

...then...

here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_66_in_Arizona

There are other web pages that go into extreme detail on the various alignments the route has had over the decades.





Looking for stuff like this?

https://www.theroute-66.com/arizona.html

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lot of info thanks. havent read this much since school in 60,s

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The TL;DR version of jimm4's answer (condition of 66 west of OK) is...

In many places, it no longer exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_66#Decline

"In some cases, such as many areas in Illinois, the new Interstate Highway not only paralleled the old US 66, it actually used much of the same roadway. A typical approach was to build one new set of lanes, then move one direction of traffic to it, while retaining the original road for traffic flowing in the opposite direction. Then a second set of lanes for traffic flowing in the other direction would be constructed, finally followed by abandoning the other old set of lanes or converting them into a frontage road."

Eastern sections on I-40 in AZ were built this way as well. You can look at maps from the 30's and 40's and compare it to the route today; alignment is dead-on.

"In New Mexico, as in most other states, rural sections of I-40 were to be constructed first with bypasses around cities to come later. However, some business and civic leaders in cities along US 66 were completely opposed to bypassing fearing loss of business and tax revenues."

Thus, if you're looking for the roadside attractions near some of the smaller (and larger...) communities, some of them still exist in one form or another.

Albuquerque, NM is a prime example. Remember this scene from an old Bugs Bunny cartoon?



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The line is based on an odd alignment of US-66 through the city. Many travelers would be 'misplaced' (never lost...) due to poor maps and less-than-adequate signs.


Now, again, don't get me wrong - plenty to see and experience along the old road. At some point in the journey, it turns into a time drain. Might be a consideration in your planning to choose only a few of the places close to home, while time is spent at those places farther away. After all, from TN to OK, it's only a couple of days to get there; more time could be spent on future travels in the region.
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so what about 60 is it pretty smooth as some say 70 little rough pavement just trying to avoid interstates and see some sites but would like good roads too

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60 is pretty decent thru Oklahoma and Arkansas...
a bit slow though as most off grid roads are
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What about the route west of Cleveland to Seattle around mid June? Stay I-90 the whole way?
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troussos wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:33 am
Thanks for posting. I am planning a trip from Erie, PA to Seattle, WA around mid-June. <...>
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What about the route west of Cleveland to Seattle around mid June? Stay I-90 the whole way?
Somewhat alluded to earlier in the thread - we don't have any idea on YOUR timeline, what you'd like to see, what you have already seen, your ride experiences, etc. In post #10 of this thread, I put a link to an article I wrote and have posted on my blog specifically about trip planning. Suggest taking a few minutes to review, if you've not done so already.

The gist of it comes down to if I-90 suits the way you travel, then that's probably the road to take. If not, then there's a LOT of country between PA to WA to ride thru, isn't there? I've done the length of Montana (along I-90 & I-94) in most of a very long August day a couple years ago. Beautiful area, but in my case, my ride was my destination.

A 2500 mile (one-way) road trip; it can be done in 3 days, it can be done in 6 days. At $150 - $200/day for trip expenses (lodging, food, fuel) this can also be a trip plan puzzle piece to plan for as well.
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dang covid put hold on everything

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Our Grand Canyon trip isn't scheduled until late September, but I'm worried that if this thing does return that everything will be shut down again. I think it will and I've been telling my coworkers that for several weeks when they ask my opinion. I just hope that if it does it won't be until later in November/December.
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yep and dont want to be away from home if it happens . food and lodging may be hard to get on road . have truck driver team out now and stops have been shut down lucky they have big sleeper.

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jimm4 wrote:
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dang covid put hold on everything
Adapt and persevere... The bike is ready to go as soon as they say the word. It may not mean *I* am ready, but it is. :lol:
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yep and dont want to be away from home if it happens . food and lodging may be hard to get on road . have truck driver team out now and stops have been shut down lucky they have big sleeper.
Fuel is _cheap_ now, suspect it will be for quite some time. I'd suspect that many of the small mom & pop places to stay might like to have some paying guests real soon.

I had a New Mexico trip laid out, but cancelled as things went downhill. I need to consider when that might get back on the schedule.

There's also a September trip planned to So Cal still on.
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wonder more about eating than rooms ,like a good meal at night.

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jimm4 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 9:38 am
wonder more about eating than rooms ,like a good meal at night.
As states open up a bit more, I really don't think that is going to be a _big_ problem...

...unless...

You're one of those people that have to have dinner @6:00, with minimal deviation.


My personal preference is to be able to get off the bike, then walk the short distance to a place to get dinner.

That gives me time to clean up a bit, before showing up all sweaty and stinky. :oops:
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Our Grand Canyon trip isn't scheduled until late September, but I'm worried that if this thing does return that everything will be shut down again. I think it will and I've been telling my coworkers that for several weeks when they ask my opinion. I just hope that if it does it won't be until later in November/December.
Here we are, ten weeks later...and...

It's not 'actually' shut down, but it could be a bit of a challenge to do the number one thing - stay away from people - when you're all around one area of the Grand Canyon.

For the foreseeable future, the only way in is via AZ-64, from Williams, AZ. Only the immediate area around Grand Canyon Village is open, and the road is closed to the east of the south rim (AZ-64, toward Cameron) and additional details, timelines, etc. accessible at the GCNP web pages.

https://ktar.com/story/3160254/navajo-n ... d-19-risk/

Yeah, story was from a month and a half ago, but no substantial changes that I know of. Consider *every* Indian nation is closed to outsiders for the near future. That's about 27% of the state of Arizona.

It sucks.
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we just decided to put off this year --been out few hrs around home nc ga ala east tn. stuff just not there to do eats outside order at window .things like this not my idea of nice trip and things on east coast starting to shut down again

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I think postponing sounds like the best idea although sad. Not only is it high risk to be out in so many places right now but also if someone did get sick you are far away from home. I think if you went this year you risk missing a lot from places that are closed. Even restaurants that only do to go service would be bad because sometimes the insides of them is what you are wanting to see because they are still setup in the style of Rt 66 heyday.



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