My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer


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My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by echinus1988 » Sat May 13, 2017 12:03 am



Electrical is all set and I took it out for a test. Here's my picture to prove it.
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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by cyberlon » Sat May 13, 2017 3:43 pm

While some of the members here haul trailers that are little more than an extended trunk, you have an entire house. I want pics of the trailer all set up!

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by wingpilot08 » Mon May 15, 2017 12:24 pm

So what year is t and what extra features do you have?

Here is my 1988 BH on Deals Gap and set up:
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08' GL1800-HPNA - Red 32,000+ miles
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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by marinedon » Mon May 15, 2017 6:13 pm

I am planning a trip to Reno (from Orlando,Fl) in August for the American Legion. My motel share person just dropped out so I was thinking of a camping trailer. I am concerned with the towing "wobble" I have a 2003 goldwing 1800. It already has a new trailer hitch ( no wiring). I would love to try out a trailer on the bike before buying, but don't know anyone around Orlando that sells them. What issues have others had towing. I am looking at the bunkhouse with an AC vent (it is August in the desert).

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by wingpilot08 » Wed May 17, 2017 8:41 am

marinedon wrote:I am planning a trip to Reno (from Orlando,Fl) in August for the American Legion. My motel share person just dropped out so I was thinking of a camping trailer. I am concerned with the towing "wobble" I have a 2003 goldwing 1800. It already has a new trailer hitch ( no wiring). I would love to try out a trailer on the bike before buying, but don't know anyone around Orlando that sells them. What issues have others had towing. I am looking at the bunkhouse with an AC vent (it is August in the desert).
I have pulled my 1988 BH with my previous 1500 well over 10,000 miles with no issues. I purchased a (new to me) 2008 in 2015 and have pulled the BH with it also and still no issues pulling the trailer (last year from Pa to VT). My only recommendation would be to get the proper wiring harness and isolator added to the Wing before pulling the trailer.
08' GL1800-HPNA - Red 32,000+ miles
1988 Bunkhouse Trailer/Camper
Darkside #1720
bikes owned:
1975 CB550-4 final mileage unknown
1982 Yamaha 650 Maximum 30,000 miles
1987 Yamaha XVZ-1300 Venture 109,000 miles
1996 Honda GL1500-SE 210,000 miles

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by marinedon » Mon May 22, 2017 4:57 pm

Thanks for the information so far. I am also looking at an "open road" made semi-local (Ft. Myers) - are you familiar with them? What type of wiring harness should I have installed ( have none now) - not sure what you mean about an "isolator".

I saw somewhere that it was recommended to switch out the bearings in the forks. Any input on that?

Don

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by wingpilot08 » Fri May 26, 2017 7:23 am

Don,
The "isolator" will protect your bike wiring by not having an additional electrical load added to the existing wire harness. Basically the isolator will provide 12VDC directly to the trailer from the battery and then will use relays to activate the turn and brake signals. Just a bit of insurance to protect the Wing wiring. Couple examples below:

https://www.ebay.com/p/?iid=12213477841 ... m=1&chn=ps
http://wingstuff.com/products/36269-iso ... ler_wiring
http://wingstuff.com/products/26923-plu ... ler_wiring
08' GL1800-HPNA - Red 32,000+ miles
1988 Bunkhouse Trailer/Camper
Darkside #1720
bikes owned:
1975 CB550-4 final mileage unknown
1982 Yamaha 650 Maximum 30,000 miles
1987 Yamaha XVZ-1300 Venture 109,000 miles
1996 Honda GL1500-SE 210,000 miles

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by themainviking » Fri May 26, 2017 8:35 am

In addition to an isolated wiring harness, as trailers are normally four wire and the GL1800 is five wire, a converter is necessary in order for the trailer lights to operate correctly.

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/_5_to_4 ... /120/51253
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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by WingAdmin » Sat May 27, 2017 2:03 pm

themainviking wrote:In addition to an isolated wiring harness, as trailers are normally four wire and the GL1800 is five wire, a converter is necessary in order for the trailer lights to operate correctly.

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/_5_to_4 ... /120/51253
Or you can do what I did, rip out the trailer wiring, and make it five wire. :)

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by echinus1988 » Sat May 27, 2017 3:19 pm

Just a couple pictures from our trip.

Not quite in order, we got caught on the road in two rain/hail storms. The first one wasn't bad with just pea size hail but the second one went to marble size and a little bigger.

The second one is our first night camping in Dumas, Texas. Free campsite but a little noisy being next to the railroad tracks. It was the first time we set up the trailer. It went up easy and came down the same way and is very comfortable to sleep in. I have to say I am glad I bought it.

The trip went very well after that first day and the hail storm. One night in Brady Texas we got heavy rain, high wind, lightening and thunder. Wicked night but the trailer stood up to it all.

We had to cancel the last half of our trip but the first part was good.
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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by echinus1988 » Tue May 30, 2017 6:28 am

My son and I just came back from a trip. Unfortunately had to come back about 5 days early due to a personal problem at home. This was the third year we tried to take this trip so we think we're just not destined to do it! LOL.

It was a short but very enjoyable trip. I did find out that the GL1100 fights to haul a trailer in a headwind. I had one the first two days and could only get about 55-60 mph which moved us but slower than we wanted. Without the head wind I could move at 65-70 with no problems.

My gas mileage was in the high 20s, 25-28 mpg which was lower than I was hoping for but not a big surprise. We carried 2 extra gallons just in case. BTW, the Goldwing gas tank is definitely over 5 gallons (5.3 I think I saw) because one gas stop I filled with 5.288 gallons. I think I was definitely on fumes there.

The trip was totally worth it and would have been even better if we hadn't had to come back early. We were able to visit a bunch of air museums in Texas and New Mexico. And of course we had to go Roswell and visit the UFO museum for the fun of it. That was our last stop before deciding we had to head home. Maybe we can get the New Mexico Space and Air Museum, War Eagles Museum, White Sands Missile Museum, VLA some time in the future. Also missed Four Corners which I haven't been to in decades.

I am still very thankful to my son, mom and sister for getting me back into motorcycling with the purchase of a 1980 GL1100 Goldwing!

Keep riding and ride safe everyone!

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by marinedon » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:33 pm

I am surprised that your top speed was so low.I will be doing a lot of riding in a caravan group ( American Legion legacy ride to Reno) so the speed should not be a factor. Did you have a lot of weight in the trailer, and 2 of you on the bike? I have an 1800 so I will have a little more power. The trailer I am actually looking at is from "open road outfitters" . I am going to drive down to Ft. Meyers and try it out. I contacted "bunkhouse" twice but they have not written back with a local dealer.

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by echinus1988 » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:27 pm

I was driving by myself. We didn't load the trailer full but I guesstimate that I was about 420 lbs. The bike towed it with no stability problems.

My top speed of 55-60 was only when I had a head wind. When it hit me from almost straight on my bike could not go much faster. I decided it wasn't worth trying to fight that and get better speed so I went the 55-60 that the bike could handle. Could I have gone faster against the head wind? Sure, drop a gear and struggle up to speed! lol

Without any wind I could easily make 65-75 but I usually went about 65-70 and it felt very stable and easy to tow. I didn't have any problems with it then.

Mileage was a lot lower than I expected. I was hoping 30-35 but I was lucky to make 27 mpg. Since I didn't expect a lot better it worked out ok. And we carried two gas containers of one gallon each just in case. Never needed them but came very close a couple times.

I love having a trailer instead of the tent. Looking forward to a couple trips this year yet.

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by marinedon » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:03 pm

I just found an ad for an " aspen classic" was wondering if anyone has had any experience with that brand. It is a 2005 but only used 5 times - $1800. I could use saving money - found a bunkhouse only moths old for $3200 - just looking for those more knowledgeable - thanks

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Post by WingAdmin » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:32 pm

marinedon wrote:I just found an ad for an " aspen classic" was wondering if anyone has had any experience with that brand. It is a 2005 but only used 5 times - $1800. I could use saving money - found a bunkhouse only moths old for $3200 - just looking for those more knowledgeable - thanks
Aspen is a well-known quality manufacturer. I've got their Sentry, which is one size down from their full-size Classic, which has a king-sized bed in it.

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by marinedon » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:16 pm

I wanted to thank everyone that posted a reply for me. I had a chance to get a fully loaded Timeout trailer for less than $4000 only a month old. Took it for a short trip to the Keys for a few days, trailer-ed well, although there is a little bit of swaying at higher speeds. I installed a 6K BTU AC that kept us cool enough- even in the scorching heat (95 with 95 humidity.) Had lots of rain the first night (3-4 inches) and there was a little bit of rain dripping in the front, I am going to reseal the seam. As I was towing I noticed the bike felt like it was "pushing" and wanted to go faster. Is this something others have experienced? Plan to get a full checkout before I take the bike and trailer on my 7000 mile trip (Florida to California with a stop in Reno for a convention) next month.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:37 am

If it's swaying, then you need to have a look at your tongue weight. If you've got too much loaded in the rear of the trailer, and the tongue weight is too light, you can experience swaying - and if you get a sudden diversion - a pothole, or a big bump while in a turn, for instance, this can develop into a dynamic instability that can fling you off your bike.

On the other hand, too much tongue weight and the trailer can push you through turns.

The proper tongue weight varies depending on the total trailer weight, the distance from the ball to the trailer axle, and a few other things. The generally guideline for trailers is to start at around 10% tongue weight - so if the total weight of the trailer is 300 lbs, the tongue weight (measured right at the end of the tongue, where the ball fits into) should start around 30 lbs. With the longer tongues on our bike trailers, this tends to be less (see levers/physics).

I have a simple, cheap luggage scale that I carry with me, and I check the tongue weight EVERY time I hook up. I want my tongue weight between 29 and 31 pounds for my trailer with my normal camping load. More or less than this, and I will go back and shift things around in the trailer cargo area to make sure I get this weight right. This is from trial and error, finding the best weight that gives me the best handling for my trailer. My trailer is 325 lbs empty, and fully loaded is closer to 400 lbs, so my tongue weight of 30 lbs ends up at around 7.5%.

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Re: My "New" Bunkhouse Trailer

Post by Sidecarmike » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:14 am

WingAdmin wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:37 am
If it's swaying, then you need to have a look at your tongue weight. If you've got too much loaded in the rear of the trailer, and the tongue weight is too light, you can experience swaying - and if you get a sudden diversion - a pothole, or a big bump while in a turn, for instance, this can develop into a dynamic instability that can fling you off your bike.
I agree on tongue weight. We started out riding two up and pulling a Timeout with a CB750. From there to a GL1000, a GL1200 with a sidecar and Bunkhouse, and now the 1500. None of them gave us any grief unless the load wasn't balanced.
I now keep a hanging scale on top of the luggage in the camper. The last thing I always do before I hook up, is weigh the tongue.





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