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MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by chads920 » Mon May 07, 2018 9:29 pm



I purchased a new camper trailer at the Billings Wing Ding and after a few trips(maybe 5000 Km) I need to replace them. Not happy would be correct, have any of you had similar experiences with trailer tires and what have you found (tires) that would be a good replacement. I need to change these tires prior to my cross Canada (approx 20,000 Km) trip this summer.


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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by themainviking » Tue May 08, 2018 6:16 am

I have purchased three trailers, new. One is a cargo and I still have it, with the other two being tent trailers. All three, with the tires from the factory, only lasted about 5K and had to be replaced. If you can find Carlisle "Radial" tires in the size you need, I think you can get better service from them. I did.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by chads920 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:42 am

I will assume that the manufactures have cost cutting in mind when they use "cheap" materials in their products. Oh well... Thanks for the info, I will go on a quest for the suggested replacement tire. I had a look at the possible replacement with a wider tire but I'm not sure that that will be possible because of the available 'space' within the fender/tub configuration.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:40 pm

OEMs always go 'el cheapo' in the low bidder contracts.

5,000 miles is about all an OEM trailer tire is good for anyway though.

I went to a 'real trailer supplier' and bought the next size up for my trailer, it had 4.80x8 and I changed them to 5.80x8
they are an inch 'thicker/wider' and maybe 3/4 inch taller?
They are wearing at least twice as many miles as the 4.80 tires did.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by WingAdmin » Wed May 09, 2018 12:28 pm

When I replaced my trailer tires, I went to etrailer.com - a great deal, Kenda 4.80-12 tires, mounted on brand new rims, for $55 each. I took my old tires and repurposed one as a spare that I mounted to the tongue of the trailer.

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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by chads920 » Thu May 10, 2018 8:54 am

Thanks for the input, when looking online and speaking with various suppliers for replacement tires I found that there exists a huge variance in pricing. It is also difficult to purchase just the tire for some reason and those tire and rim units most often are a 5 bolt pattern ( the trailer I have is a 4 bolt of course). I found a US supplier of Carlisle tires ($47.00) and they are on there way to my US (WA based) receiver for pickup. In Canada the cost for tire and rim ranged from $109.00 to $160.00... ridiculous (add your own expletive). I'll have to pay duty and the exchange to import these items but its is still a better deal right! Thanks once again..
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by themainviking » Thu May 10, 2018 9:10 am

chads920 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 8:54 am
I'll have to pay duty and the exchange to import these items but its is still a better deal right! Thanks once again..
Or you could ride your bike to WA with your trailer in tow, change out the tires, leave the old ones with a tire store for disposal, and have a small vacation while there, and tow the trailer home. You can honestly say you purchased nothing (unless you purchase something else) as you had previously paid for the tires in advance, so customs and revenue Canada would be none the wiser. The exchange is yours to pay regardless. Did you order radials?
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by chads920 » Thu May 10, 2018 10:19 am

Good idea actually going to Kennewick for the WA-L Spring Fling concentration this month and could do just that as I would have my 48 hrs in country and be legal..
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by Ravyn » Thu May 24, 2018 9:15 am

I have a set of Carlisle tires, 480x8 on my Kwik kamp trailer which is mounted on a small Harbor Freight trailer and it weighs 600 lbs when loaded, give or take a few lbs. I just recently returned from a trip to Death valley. I put on a little over 2,500 miles and there is very little wear on those tires. I do a chalk line across the tread of the tire with the tire inflated to more then it needs, I then pull the trailer on a straight stretch of road for maybe a block or so and check the chalk line and let some air out and then repeat until the chalk line just disappears across the tire. Now I know the complete tread of the tire is riding on the road. Not going to wear on the edges or down the center. 28 psi is what I found to work for me with that kind of load.

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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by chads920 » Thu May 24, 2018 10:23 am

Interesting 'trial and error' methodology, I am leaving in an hour for Kennewick WA and will be picking up my new trailer tires along the way. I'll have the tire shop inflate to 26 lbs as that is likely a good 'rule of thumb' pressure for my weight.
Thanks for the input.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by Ravyn » Thu May 24, 2018 11:43 am

chads920 wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 10:23 am
Interesting 'trial and error' methodology, I am leaving in an hour for Kennewick WA and will be picking up my new trailer tires along the way. I'll have the tire shop inflate to 26 lbs as that is likely a good 'rule of thumb' pressure for my weight.
Thanks for the input.
Hi Chad, thanks for the reply :-) Yeah, the chalk line thing works pretty good and it doesn't take very long to do it. If you don't mind me asking, what kind of tires did you get ?

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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by chads920 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:21 am

I bought the Carlille tire and I think I'll like them. The tire tread design is far superior to the tires that were mounted at the factory. They are somewhat bigger but not a problem. I think I will have better traction in wet conditions and that will ease my mind as the trip through Ontario and East will have its moments (possibly days) of rain..
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by AZgl1800 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:34 pm

The tires on my trailer are the Carlisle brand in 5.75x8

a bit larger than the standard 4,80x8 tires, they are speed rated and heavier sidewalls.

mine has about 5,000 miles on them and not showing any wear.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by DenverWinger » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:42 am

Carlisle 4.80x8's on mine, from Discount Tire for about $50 each, they mounted 'em too. They said the wheels are too small for their spin-balancer so balance beads may be an option.

Larger wheels/tires would be nice, but won't clear the wheel well without suspension mods of some sort.

Trailer claims to weigh about 350# empty, so probably 500-550# loaded. About 3500mi on this set of tires now, have been running 40# pressure. Based on what I read above, and just went out to look at the tires, that is clearly too much. Tires look like 3/4 of the tread left, but most of the wear in the center. Gonna drop pressure to 28#.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:12 am

I ended up with about 20-22 psi for the tire pressures.

my 1st set of tires had 30ish psi and the center wore out fast, plus the trailer bounced hard.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by Ravyn » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:12 am
I ended up with about 20-22 psi for the tire pressures.

my 1st set of tires had 30ish psi and the center wore out fast, plus the trailer bounced hard.
How heavy is your trailer when loaded AZ ?

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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:50 am

Ravyn wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 pm
AZgl1800 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:12 am
I ended up with about 20-22 psi for the tire pressures.

my 1st set of tires had 30ish psi and the center wore out fast, plus the trailer bounced hard.
How heavy is your trailer when loaded AZ ?
The trailer empty is about 300#, it has a heavy custom axle, hubs, wheels.
The box is wood, so not really light weight stuff. Spare tire rides under the tongue.
I carry my tool pouch, about 20#, spare battery, spare alternator, 24 qt ice chest filled with ice and water for my Phase Change cooling vest. and other misc stuff, with my duffel bag, computer, etc...

so, I'm guessing around 450# .... been meaning to weigh it one day, just for these kinds of questions :)

It started life as a HF trailer steel frame..... but the previous owner was a cabinet maker and built the box on it.
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Re: MC Camper trailer tires are not good

Post by Ravyn » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:23 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:50 am
Ravyn wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 pm
AZgl1800 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:12 am
I ended up with about 20-22 psi for the tire pressures.

my 1st set of tires had 30ish psi and the center wore out fast, plus the trailer bounced hard.
How heavy is your trailer when loaded AZ ?
The trailer empty is about 300#, it has a heavy custom axle, hubs, wheels.
The box is wood, so not really light weight stuff. Spare tire rides under the tongue.
I carry my tool pouch, about 20#, spare battery, spare alternator, 24 qt ice chest filled with ice and water for my Phase Change cooling vest. and other misc stuff, with my duffel bag, computer, etc...

so, I'm guessing around 450# .... been meaning to weigh it one day, just for these kinds of questions :)

It started life as a HF trailer steel frame..... but the previous owner was a cabinet maker and built the box on it.
Thanks AZ. I have an old kwik kamp trailer mounted on a harbor frieght trailer to get rid of that torsion suspension. Dang thing fit almost perfectly. I did mount the springs on the trailer under the axil instead of on top like they had it And I used the tongue from the kwik kamp which was a lot longer then the harbor frieght one. It's the canvas tent kwik kamp so it is a bit heavier then the new ones. Loaded weight is about 600 lbs.



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