Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing


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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by AZgl1800 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:00 am



Tony,

last summer, I bought a 250cc Piaggio MP3 scooter with Auto CVT .
that thing has changed my mind about staying with a manual transmission.

It is so fast "off the line", that no 1800 can catch it for the first 25 feet, and I have an '02...
if in a "race test" the 1800 guy would be in danger of burning the rear tire... :lol: :lol: :lol:

IF, a 2018 ever becomes available to me at a price I can afford, it will be the DCT version.


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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Rednaxs60 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:50 am

I think Honda did a good job redesigning the 1800, and Honda probably perused the various forums as well. Only so much can be done with two wheels. Rode one and was impressed with the front suspension, and a few of the extras like hill assist. Not enough to make me trade in my '85 LTD. I can go a long way and do a lot of work/maintenance for the price of a new 1800. Have done a test ride of a Triumph Tiger 800. Nice bike, but like the shaft drive of the 1200. Looked for every bump, pothole that I could find and was very impressed with the suspension, and the engine response. Lots of bells and whistles, but a smaller gas tank than the BMW variants. If Triumph were to market passenger arm rests the 1200 might be in my future, need the armrests for my passenger. She loves to ride with me but needs these. Every bike has some draw back.

Taking my '85 LTD north this summer up the Alaska highway. Will be looking at the storage issue and what to take, only so much room. My 1500 has larger storage capacity, and I won't tow a trailer - personal preference, but I prefer to ride my 1200 for a variety of reasons. Will have the same issues as the new 1800, storage will be at a premium, fuel as well. Have to consider the possibility that we may have to do some tenting - again the storage issue, weight as well.

Read the various blogs about touring and most mention that we take too much with us when we travel. There are laundry facilities en route, too many parts and tools, and other items not necessary, but we are creatures of habit and have to have too many "just in case" items.

The new 1800 is a good looking bike and there are a lot of positive reviews. The blogs about what bike would be good to do the Alaska trip on mention that the one you have is the one you need. It's like a garage sale, one person's junk is another person's treasure. There was a lot of negativity with the GW at its debut, but it has survived the test of time.

Just a few thoughts reiterated I think. Ride what you have, and have fun. Too late after the fact to say I should have done that. Cheers
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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by peppilepew » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:57 pm

Honda is not known for their working with customers. Arrogant manufacturer. Having trouble with my 12 and they won't help. Still under warranty. They rarely change mid-stream. My next bike will be a BMW or Harley. Sorry Honda, you dropped the ball on this new Goldwing. Rode one and think the OP is dead on. Needs more storage space to be a tourer.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Fatboy46 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:48 pm

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Unread post by doxbike » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:52 am

FWIW, if you get the locked out message, you can push the back arrow on the left control to get to the previous screen'.. probably not something you would figure out on the fly at 70mph... with your eyes darting from the screen to the road.-good to know.. he has a valid point(s) about HONDA not field testing these items with 2 up, on the road, AND USING a new owner. Those who program this stuff, think one way- and it aint how normal people think.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Fatboy46 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:57 pm

Wow!.. creature comforts- storage, sound systems, WiFi- Bluetooth, GPS. Well at least the GW has a heater. Some still think a motorcycle should be loud, uncomfortable and scare you to death occasionally. I prefer a comfortable seat/position. Reliability. and ease of getting on/off. Anything else you can buy, install or have added. AS for factory GPS.. if you haven't noticed that cars GPS are outdated by the time the car is bought- you can always get a better system aftermarket- and get it updated more easily. Besides, you can BUY the FEATURES you WANT. Don't like the touch screen? buy a different one. But a HONDA GPS- you are stuck with what they sell.. Don't like the luggage bins- buy a GW without bags.. add what you want.. don't like the sound system?... etc. etc.

If you don't like what you have- sell it. get what you want. HONDA will figure that out when you don't come back. Just be sure to tell the dealer why you didn't get a GW..

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by zeekxxx » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:59 pm

Wow. Lots of rude comments in here for someone who took the time to share. Thx to the OP for your article. For 30k they should get it right. I for one loved hearing all those things and I hope Honda sees this. I do shy away from radical changes for the first few model years. My vette took 3 years for gm to admit the trans was crap. I assume the next few models will iron out the bugs. The deal killer for me would be storage and wind protection. I ride year round in FL and hiding from the wind is important to me.

Thx for your time and let us know if anything is fixed.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by oldmopars » Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:29 pm

I have to say all the electronic gadgets on the new Wing are not something I would want either. I have a 96 SE and I have removed the radio and turned the space into a glove box. No radio, no CB (Still there, but not connected).
I have a Garmin GPS, and my Blue tooth headset to talk to my riding buddy. I can do radio/music if I want, but I rarely do. When I am on my bike, I want to soak up what is around me. No music, no distractions. I enjoy the sounds of the stuff around me.
The lack of trunk space on the new Wing is a put off as well. I want to travel far, this means luggage space. I use a CPAP, I need space for it. Most of the time I camp, not hotels. This requires luggage space for the tent, sleeping bag, cooking gear, etc. What good is a touring bike with no luggage space.
It feels like Honda was trying to compete with the BMW. BMW guys are loyal and have deep pockets, they will not buy a Honda. Gold Wing riders have always been looking for a long distance touring bike. Looks like they will have to go somewhere else.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Ravyn » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:37 am

oldmopars wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:29 pm
I have to say all the electronic gadgets on the new Wing are not something I would want either. I have a 96 SE and I have removed the radio and turned the space into a glove box. No radio, no CB (Still there, but not connected).
I have a Garmin GPS, and my Blue tooth headset to talk to my riding buddy. I can do radio/music if I want, but I rarely do. When I am on my bike, I want to soak up what is around me. No music, no distractions. I enjoy the sounds of the stuff around me.
The lack of trunk space on the new Wing is a put off as well. I want to travel far, this means luggage space. I use a CPAP, I need space for it. Most of the time I camp, not hotels. This requires luggage space for the tent, sleeping bag, cooking gear, etc. What good is a touring bike with no luggage space.
It feels like Honda was trying to compete with the BMW. BMW guys are loyal and have deep pockets, they will not buy a Honda. Gold Wing riders have always been looking for a long distance touring bike. Looks like they will have to go somewhere else.
Yes sir brother, you and I think alike.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by oldmopars » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:46 am

If I were looking to part with $30K for a new bike, I would be getting a Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental. They have really stepped up with this bike. It seems they have asked the right questions and built the bike people have asked for. While it is a Cruiser, that seems to be most popular right now. It is the first CRUISER that I have seen with reverse AND forward assist. BMW and Honda only offer reverse.
It sports large luggage, tons of rider/passenger comfort like heated everything standard. They spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel getting it just right. Electric windscreen standard. Infotainment seems to not be limited to just Apple. For the money, it seems to hit all the right notes for me. Too bad $30K is a complete pipe dream right now.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by TWOWHEELCOWBOY » Tue May 21, 2019 3:13 pm

17,000 on my 2018 Air Bag DTC 11 months old, and I love it. Going on a 1,500 mile ride tomorrow and can't be more excited. Owned 7 Wings before this starting off with the 1985 Limited and this one to me is the BEST!
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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by doxbike » Tue May 21, 2019 10:24 pm

Couldn't agree more-love mine

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Redwing822 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:20 pm

My biggest complaint so far is the lack of a trustworthy or competent dealer. I have had a TPMS light on from day one. I took the bike to the local dealer who (thankfully) didn’t charge me, but when I picked the wing up that afternoon, some **** put 65 miles on it and ran out a quarter tank of gas; 7 miles later, you guessed it, the light came back on. Someone previously posted that Honda doesn’t give a @#$&. I tend to agree.

I just ordered the Helm service manual for it. I’m the best mechanic I know.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by bad2thebone55 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:55 pm

Wow, all I can say after getting rid of my GL1832 for the GL1833 is I'm happy as a fox in a hen house with the new 2018 GW Tour DCT! I have no regrets what's so ever. I was looking for such a change and evolution of the GW. I have accepted every nuance with pleasure. Matter of fact you might say Joyous in my purchase of this machine. But I have accepted it as a revamped model and that being the case the idiosyncrasies that come with change. Change is harder for some to accept but in the end, you do or else you stay locked in the PAST and subsequently become part of the past as time moves forward. I love its technology, the weight loss, the agility, did I mention the DCT is just freaking crazy once I learned how to synchronize the clutches for smoother operation-shifting. I pull a Buschtec so space was never an issue. I have traveled solo with this machine and I learned how to pack smart and efficient and never had any problem carrying the necessary things for my tours with the smaller luggage space on the 2018-19 GW. Really, it's all about acceptance or non-acceptance of anything you purchase. If you like it, you keep it. If you don't you rid yourself of it-just that simple. Really, if you are not content or happy with something take action and make a change that you find agreeable and move on. Life is too short to do otherwise. JMHO Enjoy your ride your way and smile as the miles roll on by! :D :D :D
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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Gizmo56 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:50 am

Well written, bad2thebone55! :mrgreen:

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by bad2thebone55 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:51 pm

Gizmo56 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:50 am
Well written, bad2thebone55! :mrgreen:
👍 Thanks Gizmo56!
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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by ax2grd » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:49 pm

I was hot to get the new generation wing,(i've had 3) but after all the issues I've read about i decided to stay with my 2016 audio comfort and upgrade to Traxxion suspension instead.
So now I have a tried and true touring platform with a vastly improved ride that's nearly as nimble as a sport bike!

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Ravyn » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:23 am

ax2grd wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:49 pm
I was hot to get the new generation wing,(i've had 3) but after all the issues I've read about i decided to stay with my 2016 audio comfort and upgrade to Traxxion suspension instead.
So now I have a tried and true touring platform with a vastly improved ride that's nearly as nimble as a sport bike!
Smart move. :-)

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Fatboy46 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:12 pm

oldmopars wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:46 am
If I were looking to part with $30K for a new bike, I would be getting a Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental. They have really stepped up with this bike. It seems they have asked the right questions and built the bike people have asked for. While it is a Cruiser, that seems to be most popular right now. It is the first CRUISER that I have seen with reverse AND forward assist. BMW and Honda only offer reverse.
It sports large luggage, tons of rider/passenger comfort like heated everything standard. They spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel getting it just right. Electric windscreen standard. Infotainment seems to not be limited to just Apple. For the money, it seems to hit all the right notes for me. Too bad $30K is a complete pipe dream right now.
OK... tried to find 'forward assist'- only thing that came up was for AR 15 style rifles.. What is 'forward assist' ?

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by doxbike » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:43 pm

new GW's have walk mode with DCT which I assume is what you're referring to as forward assist?

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm

Fatboy46 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:12 pm
oldmopars wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:46 am
If I were looking to part with $30K for a new bike, I would be getting a Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental. They have really stepped up with this bike. It seems they have asked the right questions and built the bike people have asked for. While it is a Cruiser, that seems to be most popular right now. It is the first CRUISER that I have seen with reverse AND forward assist. BMW and Honda only offer reverse.
It sports large luggage, tons of rider/passenger comfort like heated everything standard. They spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel getting it just right. Electric windscreen standard. Infotainment seems to not be limited to just Apple. For the money, it seems to hit all the right notes for me. Too bad $30K is a complete pipe dream right now.
OK... tried to find 'forward assist'- only thing that came up was for AR 15 style rifles.. What is 'forward assist' ?
Forward assist is on the DCT Goldwing only - it's similar to reverse (where you walk the bike backwards, but it is moving under its own power, slowly) - except it's going forward, not backward.

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Re: Honda disgraced themselves with the 2018 Goldwing

Post by Ravyn » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:54 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm
Fatboy46 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:12 pm
oldmopars wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:46 am
If I were looking to part with $30K for a new bike, I would be getting a Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental. They have really stepped up with this bike. It seems they have asked the right questions and built the bike people have asked for. While it is a Cruiser, that seems to be most popular right now. It is the first CRUISER that I have seen with reverse AND forward assist. BMW and Honda only offer reverse.
It sports large luggage, tons of rider/passenger comfort like heated everything standard. They spent a lot of time in the wind tunnel getting it just right. Electric windscreen standard. Infotainment seems to not be limited to just Apple. For the money, it seems to hit all the right notes for me. Too bad $30K is a complete pipe dream right now.
OK... tried to find 'forward assist'- only thing that came up was for AR 15 style rifles.. What is 'forward assist' ?
Forward assist is on the DCT Goldwing only - it's similar to reverse (where you walk the bike backwards, but it is moving under its own power, slowly) - except it's going forward, not backward.
Baageeezzuuss....... what next? Things are getting a little out of control. Pretty soon you will be able to get on program the gps sit back read a book and let the bike take you to wherever you programed it to. I want my 1963 Triumph Bonneville back ! :-)



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