2018 GW brakes engage while riding


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clyde017
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2018 GW brakes engage while riding

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I was cruising at about 65MPH when the brakes on the 2018 locked up and stopped the bike.
I shut the bike off and restarted it and the bike worked,managed to get it home,have not used it since.
Have not taken it to a dealer because I'm afraid to ride it.


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denstl
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Now that's a scary situation. Have never experienced that on my 2018 or heard of anyone else having this issue. Were you applying the brake when it happened? And, front, rear or both?
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No ...I was stopped at alight, got up to speed and a short time after that the bike came to quick stop.
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Re: 2018 GW brakes engage while riding

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Any update on this? Have you had the dealer look at it yet? It sounds to me like a horrible malfunction of the ABS computer.
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No not yet,afraid to ride it would have to find away to have it towed in.
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Did both wheels lock up, or just one, and which one?
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Sorry to hear about your mishap. I'd definitely get ahold of the dealer, maybe he could arrange for you to have it picked up or get ahold of AAA.
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I have a 1990 Aspencade and had this happen after having my bike serviced because of no brakes. After the service everything was fine until I went out for a ride and the bike suddenly stopped after I had just started off and was in the process of making a turn. Obviously the bike tipped over. I got it going again but I could feel, and smell, the brakes dragging. Then as fast as it started it stopped and all was fine. Come to find out, my master cylinder had too much fluid in it!! Just a little too, like a small amount. The shop drained off the excess and everything works great again. My mechanic explained that this is pretty common with Goldwings. When the Reservoir is overfull the fluid overheats, expands and closes the calipers!
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WingAdmin wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:16 pm Any update on this? Have you had the dealer look at it yet? It sounds to me like a horrible malfunction of the ABS computer.
For WIW, Honda Motor has a recall on various model civics and other high end vehicles for just this problem; sudden unexpected and unexplained emergency braking. You definitely need to get this to a dealer and have them report this to mother Honda.

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clyde017 wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:56 am I was cruising at about 65MPH when the brakes on the 2018 locked up and stopped the bike.
I shut the bike off and restarted it and the bike worked,managed to get it home,have not used it since.
Have not taken it to a dealer because I'm afraid to ride it.
Locked up at 65? Just like that?? :?:
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Re: 2018 GW brakes engage while riding

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I had this happen on my '83 1100.
I was doing a test ride after some rebuilding and getting up to speed on a freeway. Luckily, it was only the rear brake and I could sense it dragging and got to the shoulder before the rear wheel locked. I checked and the rotor was HOT. I had tools with me and bled some fluid off the rear caliper and managed to get back home.
Turned out the return port was clogged so the fluid basically was on a one-way street. Rebuilt the rear master cylinder, caliper, installed new pads and was good to go.
Good luck and stay safe!!
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You may want to investigate this recall.

https://blog.motorcycle.com/2015/11/04/ ... old-wings/

I had a 1982 GL1100, currently have a 1998 GL1200 and a 2001 GL1800. When replacing the brake pads on my GL1100 I had a problem where the brake pads were dragging after replacing the pads. The rear brake practically seized the wheel from turning. On removing the caliper I found the pistons were seized in the brake caliper, there was considerable amount of dirt on the pistons from when I pushed them back into the housing, this dirt was causing the pistons to bind. I had to remove the pistons and replace them and the seals. Since then when changing brake pads, I remove the caliper, then place a piece of wood or metal between the brake pads, then carefully push the pistons out by pressing the brake lever or pedal until about 1/16 of an inch exposing the clean piston. I then clean the outside of the pistons with narrow strips of cloth soaked in brake fluid to remove any dirt. I only use brake fluid for cleaning the pistons, think about it, the seals are compatible with brake fluid, if you use some other cleaner you may cause damage to the seals. Once clean, dump water over the pistons and caliper to remove the dirt etc. Let the caliper and pistons air dry. One should also inspect the pistons for pitting and replace if necessary. Next put a few drops of brake fluid on the pistons and push the pistons back in using a C clamp or other tool for pushing the pistons in. Reassemble by installing the brake pads and caliper.

Test the brakes to ensure they are not binding; pump the brake lever or brake pedal until the brakes pump up. While pressing the brake on ensure the wheel will not turn, release the brake lever, now turn wheel to ensure it is not binding, the wheel should turn freely. Perform these steps a few times. Take your motorcycle for a short ride, keep your speed down, depress the brakes several times to seat the pads. Now put the motorcycle on the centre stand and/or jack up the front wheel, rotate the wheel to ensure it turns freely.

Also to note, when the brakes are released the pistons should retract slightly.
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Hi,
I hope you are allright after your spill. I have had this problem on my Gl1800 it turned out to be the brake piston seal/wippers. Once I hade the pads out I could see the wipper on the top right calliper had swollen. There are many resions that this could happen, I think in my case it was age related as the bike was 10y. I'm not too bad at that machanical stuff so I got an new set of Honda seals and wippers watched as many youtubes as was humanly posible then armed with a few spanners etc I set to work. As I had quite a build upe of road dirt and salts I took the callipers off and gave them a good clean and some new pins and springs. Watched more youtubes to fine the correct way to grease them up and finnally got everything back together. After bleeding I came across on problem that didn't show and I just thought that something was wrong, It was the callipers only on one side were working so as no thing seemed to happen on the other side. Long story short I went back to the manual and bled the brakes the Honda way and they worked magnificently. Though you will need if you dont have the arms the length of jumbo wings. I hope this helps.
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Up front I have never even looked at the new Goldwing up close so i'm being very general here.Has the brake lever been changed to an aftermarket style? I have seen some on other bikes I was more familar with that the freetravel could be adjusted folks had the fancy levers installed and were adjusted too tight so the relief port wasn't opened properly and after riding awhile the brakes eventually locked.I oubt these are like that but I wanted to throw it out there just in case.
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Post by mdscott »

My guess is one of the master cylinders is slightly applying the brakes, once the brake pads got too hot and expanded the brakes applied. Could be out of adjustment or the internal seals aren’t retracting. If it was mine I’d replace or rebuild both master cylinders.


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