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Kick Starter

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:02 am
by Barlow
I have a 1975 Wing that I am restoring.
During these winter months I put oil in the cylinders and turn the engine over once in a while using the kick starter.
While doing this a week or so back the kick lever acted like it slipped off a cog and now it is stuck in the down position.
It won't return to its normal position.
So to turn the engine over now I use the battery connected to the frame for ground and touch the cable post on the starter.
The engine will turn but very, very slowly even with the plugs out.
There is nothing in my manual about the kick starter mechanism.
Nothing how to remove it, repair it, just nothing.
If anyone has any knowledge about this I sure would appreciate some help.
Thanks in advance.

Happy trails,
Ben

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:50 pm
by kndw
There is a description on the kickstarter mechanism in my manual, but I must admit it isn't very clear. I recently rebuilt the engine and also dismantled the kickstarter mechanism. As I recall, there are two springs in there, one end slides in a groove and another end fits into a pinhole, but my memory is a bit blurry on this. To mount it in the engine and get it to work, I had to wind the spring a bit, maybe a turn or so. It sounds to me that maybe one of the springs in your engine got loose or broke. Unfortunately you'll have to pull the engine to get at the kick starter assembly.
The electrical starter is a separate system, and I don't think it would be affected by a problem with the kick starter. Could it be that the problem with the electrical starter is due to a dying battery?
Can you put it in gear and turn the engine over by turning the rear wheel?

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:25 am
by Barlow
Thanks for the info.
Will try a hot battery.

Happy trails,
Ben

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:06 am
by Barlow
Tried a hot battery but the engine turns over real slow like something is holding it back.
I think maybe something in the kick starter is dragging.
Like you mentioned I'll have to pull the engine to find the problem.
Thanks for the info.

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:48 pm
by kndw
Barlow wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:06 am
Tried a hot battery but the engine turns over real slow like something is holding it back.
I think maybe something in the kick starter is dragging.
Like you mentioned I'll have to pull the engine to find the problem.
Thanks for the info.
Before you pull the engine: can you turn over the engine when you put it in gear by turning the rear wheel (take the plugs out)?

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:53 pm
by Barlow
Don't know yet.
I'll check that tomorrow.
Let you know.

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:42 am
by DenverWinger
I bet your starter brushes are worn out. When that happens the starter runs very slowly and pulls a horrendous amount of current. It is a very simple and inexpensive fix...

Re: Kick Starter

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:52 pm
by kndw
Yes, that's what I suspect too... and you can test that by trying to turn the wheel. If it does turn, that would mean that the engine at least isn't blocked.

However, it doesn't explain why the kickstarterplug is hanging in the down position. For that you probably will have to pull the engine. Eventually.