Vetter Fairing


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heli_madken
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Vetter Fairing

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Hi,

Although I loved the look of my naked GL1000 my age is working against me when travelling at speed, the buffeting and pressure on my neck made riding long distances a problem.

So I bought an old Vetter Fairing and lowers and over the past few months completely refurbished/modernised them and then painted the whole bike changing colour from black to Candy Sirus Blue -






The fairing is a Windjammer SS dating from the late 1970's, I bought it in reasonable condition off ebay together with the audio console. The thing that first grabbed me when I collected the fairing was how much I hated the fake leather effect of the internal panels and the audio console which you can see here -


So I set about smoothing the whole thing out, first a good rub down, then some filler, more sanding then a covering of glass cloth and epoxy resin finally smoothed over with epoxy resin and talcum powder to fill the weave -


Then the same process for the fairing itself -


I chose to cover with glass cloth partly because it stabilises all the filler giving a better finish but also has the advantage of preventing any further cracking of the fairing which I could see taking place in various areas.

Once I had got the internal panels smoothed and painted matt black I turned my attention to the Candy Sirus Blue which I purchased from RS Bike Paints. I wanted this colour as it matched the GL1000 I bought back in 1978 as a lad. Interestingly she is still going and I have tried to find her for years - YJP 198T if you own this bike please get in touch.

This is a three stage colour the first being a silver base coat -


Then the blue followed by some decals on the bike itself and hand masked stripes on the fairing. This was then covered with a few coats of clear.
Masking out the fairing stripes -


After a week I could flat off with 2000 grit and polish, I am pretty pleased with the results, the paint has a nice deep shine -


The next challenge was the fairing pockets. The right side has a lockable cover the left a vinyl cover held in place with press studs. I didnt like the vinyl cover and also the fact that the pocket itself is actually just the inside of the fairing, not very neat at all.

So I designed a cover for the left side and 3D printed it trying to match the right side as far as possible. I also designed some internal pockets and printed these (I have quite a large 3D printer which I made myself specifically for this type of project). I used some 2mm thick ABS Plasticard to make a mounting bulkhead for the printers which was bonded in place using Acetone which works really well on the Fairing as it too is ABS.

Left side cover -


Internal pocket -


I dont intend carrying anything large in the fairing so its just space for a mobile phone and other small items. The right side pocket has a 12V outlet for the Sat Nav and the left a 5v outlet for phone charging.

I could not find the correct GL1000 fairing lowers so purchased a set originally destined for a Z900. These were amazing, brand new in their delivery box complete with all the original paperwork, always amazes me that stuff can sit somewhere for 40 odd years in some warehouse before being used. It didnt really matter that they were for a Z900 as all the lowers for the Windjammer series are the same, Vetter simply cut them to the required shape to suit each bike. However I didn't like how they covered partially my beautiful carburetors so I heavily modified them again using Plasticard and Glass cloth -


Another element I didnt like was how even with the lowers on you can see the fairing mounting system which consists of a frame fixed to the bike with hose clips which looked really nasty to my eyes. So I designed a cover and took the opportunity to combine them with some DRL's which are very effective -




Once the fairing is fitted to the bike the shelter sides will no longer hinge outward. Vetter's solution was to advise removing the hinge pins and sliding the sides into position. The problem I felt with this was that you are then only relying on the securing knob to hold the sides in position with no real accuracy in lining them up with the shelter top. So I designed and printed some adapters which are based on the original hinges but allow location onto the original hinge pins -


Next up came the electrics, I wanted to remove the original headlamp assembly completely so designed and printed a housing that would neatly contain all the electrical wiring -


This feeds out toward the fairing at the rear of the forks which gives a much shorter and less strained cable route -


I used a new 9 pin connector and silicon sleeved wire which is more flexible than the usual cable.

The fairing came with an old JVC radio/tape deck which amazingly still worked. But I wanted something with Bluetooth capability so bought a nice new Alpine unit which has a removable fascia for security, also purchased some marine grade waterproof speakers -


I have a BMW Sat Nav 6 so I purchased a Garmin Zumo dash mounting and fixed it securely to the right hand pocket cover, in this position I can see it clearly and can glance down although I tend to listen to directions more than look at the screen -


I purchased a Bluetooth transmitter which is wired to the rear speaker channels on the radio, so the whole set up works like this -


The Sat Nav connects to the radio via Bluetooth, my Interphone helmet headset connects to the Bluetooth transmitter.

To listen to the radio/music via speakers I simply use the fader control balanced all the way to the front speaker channels.

To listen to the radio using the helmet headset I balance the fader all the way to the rear speaker channels which has the effect of turning off the speakers.

To listen to the Sat Nav on my helmet headset or the speakers I change the source on the radio to Bluetooth. It all works very well.

Overall I am really pleased with the end result and after 4 months work had my first ride today and am absolutely chuffed with the level of wind protection, the fairing positively plants the bike on the road at speed you can really feel the stability improvement.

Hopefully I have managed to update the faring whilst keeping some of its 1970's charm, hope you like it.


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Re: Vetter Fairing

Post by kndw »

Really nicely done!

I have a Rickman fairing which I also adapted to fit a bluetooth amp and speakers, which connects to my phone. I can post an image/video if you're interested.

A problem I encountered was that the GL1000 charging system isn't powerful enough to play music, keep the lights on and charge the battery, at least not at low speeds. This means the bike would die in city traffic. I suggest you install something (e.g. a voltmeter) to monitor charging.
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Post by 77Goldwing »

I bought my '77 in early 1978 and rode it one season before adding the same Vetter fairing and lowers. I still use them, crappy looking hose clamps and all. I am impressed with your work, but I am too much of a traditionalist (and too lazy) to emulate.
1977 Goldwing GL1000
Vetter SS fairing/lowers; custom saddle seat
Purchased 6/30/1978, 1585 miles

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1972 CB100 (sold)
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Post by Karlokonek »

Wow that looks amazing. I like the classic look with the modern upgrades. I was hoping you folks here might be able to help me out on my own refurbishment project. I’m running a Windjammer 4 on my 78 but the little nut inserts that hold the lower panels on are breaking or missing and getting a wrench with a bunch on is a little tough for the most forward holes. I was wondering if you guys knew of a way to replace them or upgrade them. I’m looking on Amazon and EBay but I’m not sure what exactly will work.
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Post by offcenter »

Vetter fairings were made of ABS plastic, same as all the bodywork
on our Wings. It can be repaired using ABS plumbing cement from
Home Depot or any plumbing supply place.
George in Jersey.
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heli_madken
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Hi Karlokonek, if I understand you correctly you are looking for rubber 'Well' nuts. For the life of me I cant find my order but if you buy some M6 well nuts you wont be far out they are cheap. Use some spit to help push them in the existing hole, hope this helps, Ken
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Very well done! 👍 Two questions:

1) Did you make your own tinted windscreen?

2) Where did you find those badges on the Krausers? I like how they dress up the 'bags'.

Ron in AZ
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heli_madken wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:04 am Hi Karlokonek, if I understand you correctly you are looking for rubber 'Well' nuts. For the life of me I cant find my order but if you buy some M6 well nuts you wont be far out they are cheap. Use some spit to help push them in the existing hole, hope this helps, Ken
Thank you very much. Found them in 5 seconds on Amazon.
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Really sorry Karlokonek I dont know where I got M6 from I have just measured mine and they are M5 apologies, also you will need some M5 x 25mm dome head screws to go with them.

Incidentally a good quality acetone will 'weld' ABS together very effectively. Hold the crack together and 'wick' some acetone into it, capillary attraction will pull the acetone in and temporary melt the ABS then it will harden as a joint, works a treat.

Landisr, I believe the tinted windscreen was a one off the previous owner had made. The tank badges where an ebay item like these - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Hond ... 1725628379
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heli_madken wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:23 am Really sorry Karlokonek I dont know where I got M6 from I have just measured mine and they are M5 apologies, also you will need some M5 x 25mm dome head screws to go with them.

Incidentally a good quality acetone will 'weld' ABS together very effectively. Hold the crack together and 'wick' some acetone into it, capillary attraction will pull the acetone in and temporary melt the ABS then it will harden as a joint, works a treat.

Landisr, I believe the tinted windscreen was a one off the previous owner had made. The tank badges where an ebay item like these - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Hond ... 1725628379
Thanks for the lead. 👍
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Post by thane.williams »

Hello,

I am a new member and was wondering if any modifications were done for install. I have a 1975 GL1000 I would like to add the windjammer fairing. I was also wondering if a windjammer fairing from a 1979 GL1000 would fit a 1975 GL1000? Any info will help
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Hi and welcome to the forum. The only modification is to wiring which isn't too difficult if you have the Vetter loom to work with.

The fairing has a frame that is rather crudely attached using hose clips. Make sure you use something to protect the frame when putting it on, I used pieces of an old inner tube between the frame and the hose clips.

There are two types of frames for the GL1000 pre 1979 model are all the same the 1979 model is different but looks identical. If you find having fitted the frame that the fairing fouls the tank you have a 1979 model frame and you will need to add 10mm thick spacers. So with a bit of work you can fit either type.

Hope this helps, Ken
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Thanks much appreciated!
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thane.williams wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:11 pm Hello,

I am a new member and was wondering if any modifications were done for install. I have a 1975 GL1000 I would like to add the windjammer fairing. I was also wondering if a windjammer fairing from a 1979 GL1000 would fit a 1975 GL1000? Any info will help

If you need the pigtail/harness/loom, let me know. I think I have a new one.

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Outstanding work and creativity.

I'm installing a Pyle marine bluetooth amp and speaker system on my 83 because they claim it's waterproof. Living and riding in the Pacific NW I'm usually caught in at least one storm each year.

Here's a poor man's window tint: VHT Nite-Shades. Designed for plastic, it sticks well to our shields and looks good.
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Post by ChrisInPA »

Wow, amazing job! While I have the standard GW fairing on my '95 I had a Vetter on my previous 2 bikes. I miss the Vetter mostly for the grater amount storage but the lowers really made a difference in colder weather. I don't see many anymore, but I admit to staring and feeling jealous when I do.
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Post by tbird71 »

Nicely done! If you were my neighbour I would try to talk you into doing the same thing
on my 1979 "Excess Eleven" that is fittrd with the factory Yamaha Vetter setup.
The Vetters absolutely look stock on those 75-79 GLs. Honda finally got the message in 1980

Thought you might want to see my favorite GL I own. It's an '84 1200 STD 1st 1200 and last stripper
fitted at the dealership with an '83 Hondaline fairing (Dealers did this in 84 to move the unsold STDs
which by this time no one wanted anymore here) Works perfect for me!



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tbird71 wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:26 am Nicely done! If you were my neighbour I would try to talk you into doing the same thing
on my 1979 "Excess Eleven" that is fittrd with the factory Yamaha Vetter setup.
The Vetters absolutely look stock on those 75-79 GLs. Honda finally got the message in 1980

Thought you might want to see my favorite GL I own. It's an '84 1200 STD 1st 1200 and last stripper
fitted at the dealership with an '83 Hondaline fairing (Dealers did this in 84 to move the unsold STDs
which by this time no one wanted anymore here) Works perfect for me!

std3.JPG

Very rare. Very nice. Congrats.

Ron in AZ
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Thats a really nice bike tbird71 I really like the lines of the Hondaline fairing.

Thank you so much for all the comments on my fairing restore project and thank you admin for including the thread in this months newsletter.

If anyone wants me to post .stl files of all the 3D printed parts so you can get them printed or print them yourself let me know
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Post by tbird71 »

I also own an 89 Aspencade but at 67 it's gettin kind of cumbersome.
No doubt that 1500 six is one of the jewels of all time, but I prefer
riding the 84, the gl12 motor is no slouch and that hondaline provides me all
the wind cushion I really need.

I have yet to ride a newer 18 up 1800, and I will someday but for me anyway that 84 is all the wing I'll ever want
Thanks for the nice comments and enjoy that beautiful '77!
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Post by Jason_55904 »

Absolutely beautiful work. I may have to try my hand at some of the upgrades you made. Could you tell me about the molex 9 pin connector you used. Did it fit the plate and if so do you have a link to it? I tried ordering one and it didn't fit. I can't find dimensions listed on any of the connectors and I hate to keep guessing.
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Jason_55904 wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:46 pm Absolutely beautiful work. I may have to try my hand at some of the upgrades you made. Could you tell me about the molex 9 pin connector you used. Did it fit the plate and if so do you have a link to it? I tried ordering one and it didn't fit. I can't find dimensions listed on any of the connectors and I hate to keep guessing.
Thank you!

I bought the connector from the Vetter parts site, scroll down on this page - http://craigvetter.com/pages/Online_Sto ... tml#anchor. It seemed to be exactly the same as the original and was easy to solder and fit.

Hope this helps, Ken


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