GL1100 leaning too far on side stand


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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by Lucky07 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:29 pm



Old thread but I'm having the same issue. Bike is leaning too far over for my liking when parked. I would be extremely uneasy about parking it with even the slightest downslope Port side.

It's a new to me '83 Aspencade. Everything is straight and solid. I'm starting to think this may not even be the right sidestand. The lean is borderline acceptable with no air in the rear shocks. Fairly new progressive 416s put on by PO.

Does anyone know how long the original side stand should be from bolt hole to the bottom of the pad? I've googled and googled (boy that don't sound right lol) and cant find info on the oem length for this thing.



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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by DenverWinger » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:27 am

Might be that the 416's are a little taller than OEM? If that's the case should be very easy to get it on the center stand.

If it warms up today I might go out to the garage and measure the side stand on my 1100...
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by jaimenv » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:40 am



Mine had a badly corroded left side subframe.
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by Lucky07 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:50 am

DenverWinger wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:27 am
Might be that the 416's are a little taller than OEM? If that's the case should be very easy to get it on the center stand.

If it warms up today I might go out to the garage and measure the side stand on my 1100...
I doubt they're that much taller. I have no issue getting it on the sidestand but I'm using the right technique for one ... and two, my garage has a slight slope to it so the bike is already trying to go backwards which helps alot.

I only put it on the sidestand once on level ground last fall and don't really remember how much oomph I had to put on the rear crash bar to get it up though.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by Lucky07 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:07 am

jaimenv wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:40 am
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Mine had a badly corroded left side subframe.
This is what I got. Measured the other way because of the boards but I'm hooked on the pin that holds the return spring up there. Mine seems a little shorter. Might have to drill a hole through the foot and counter sink a flat surface to bolt a pad under there.
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by jaimenv » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:21 pm

Looks like the same length as mine.
How much play is there on the stand ? Not front to back but side to side once it's extended.
Also how much air in the forks ?
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by Lucky07 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:05 pm

jaimenv wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:21 pm
Looks like the same length as mine.
How much play is there on the stand ? Not front to back but side to side once it's extended.
Also how much air in the forks ?
No play whatsoever. Air was mid way on the digital gauge for the rear and low end of the gauge for the front last time it was on the side stand.

If I dump the air out of the back its a bit better. But with it aired up as the weight comes off the back end it decompresses the shocks and thats what gets it to the point where it makes me uneasy.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by jaimenv » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:39 pm

You sure the digital indication on the forks air pressure is accurate?
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by Lucky07 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:48 pm

jaimenv wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:39 pm
You sure the digital indication on the forks air pressure is accurate?
Thats one thing I havent checked yet but it cant be too far off. One thing I know about air is that at those low pressures even if you were to take a reading with 5 different gauges they would likely all read differently.

I plan on rigging up analog gauges on the lines out of sight as a failsafe at some point. Same idea as a suspension gauge on a truck.

Just tried it and even with no air in them its still got that lean to it. I just dumped all the air out of the back and most out of the front (stopped when there was hardly anything exhausting anymore) and it sits half decently if I'm very careful about not decompressing the back shocks. If I get off too quick the momentum lets the rear come up and I'm leaning too much again.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Post by newday777 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:47 am

Lucky07
Inspect the removable frame member, (#2) rear bolt area for rust. This frame member is removable to remove the engine.
This is a typical problem on the 1100s. If you remove it from the bike, on the backside, at the rear, is a hole that water runs into and causes rust from the inside out. This weakens this frame member and the weight of the bike sitting on the sidestand, twists this frame member,(#2 in fiche) and thus your extra lean.
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