GL1100 -choke knob problem


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GL1100 -choke knob problem

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Hi friends.I have a problem with the choke .. when I pull out the choke knob while starting the (cold)engine - the knob does not stay in the desired position - and immediately retracts back in. I've had this situation for a long time, and I dealt with it by using a 1'' long piece of rubber hose that I cut verically , and I place it on the choke cable to prevent it from going back.. it works ok but this is not an elegant solution.. why does this happen and how can I fix this situation?
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Re: GL1100 -choke knob problem

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I had a similar problem and came up with a workable solution. The choke is a turn to lock type so it needs a good way to turn the cable at the knob end.

I purchased a short piece (about 2") of 3/8" square stock and drilled two crossed holes at the midpoint. One for the end of the cable to go into, tightly, the other I tapped for a set screw.

Now I have a t-shaped choke hanle that I can pull out and give a quarter clockwise turn and it holds great.

Also, make sure you twist the throttle slightly so you are "setting" the idle up instead of trying to "pull" the throttle up.
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ok! that's A nice original way to tackle this issue , but I am trying to learn why this is happening.. When the bike was new (correct me if i'm wrong)i guess you could pull out the choke knob as far as needed, and it stayed there until you pushed it in again .. so i am trying to understand what is the part/s that became worn or broken along the years and if it can be fixed to be as good as new , or do I have settle for a home made solution..
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Re: GL1100 -choke knob problem

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the outer cable has a locking or sinching type nut at the top(under the rubber) and if you tighten it down it with hold the cable. it is in the owners manual.well at least I think it is there. Could be the GL1000 only.
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Re: GL1100 -choke knob problem

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Right. The top of the choke cable, just under the part you actually pull - pull the choke out to engage it, then rotate that piece to tighten it in place.

You can see it here - not the nut on the left, the part on the right, in between the bracket and the actual choke knob:

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oops.. almost embarassing :D .. I found the little secret screwing cap hiding inside the rubber outer cap, tightened it - et voila!! everything is good! thanks a lot!!
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Re: GL1100 -choke knob problem

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s_lapid wrote:oops.. almost embarassing :D .. I found the little secret screwing cap hiding inside the rubber outer cap, tightened it - et voila!! everything is good! thanks a lot!!
Not to out-do your embarrassment, but I broke mine. I followed the manual because mine was slipping earlier this year. I pulled out the choke and twisted the rubber cap, and it went snap, and I went oh darn. (Maybe a slightly different expletive) I bough a new one, and it did give me a chance to clean up and paint the rusty bracket. When the new one came, I noticed it was a bit different in the size of the cap. Until I read this post I never really looked into it. I am posting this for others that may have this problem, and it may save the a snap. Although my Wing is an 82, it had a pull and turn type choke cable. When I went to tighten what I thought was a cinch type, it doesn't turn, it breaks.


Now the new one is a cinch type, and I am having the problem you posted about. I just went out to see if I could tighten it a bit, because when I first put it on and it slipped, I was way worried about snaping it again. I just tried to tighten it and it seemed to help somewhat. But tell me, do you need to pry the rubber cap off to get to the nut? I just don't want to buy another one, but would like it to stay out by its self, so my fellow riders don't laugh and point. ;) They mostly ride another brand of motorcycle, and like to razz me a little.
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I did not lift the rubber
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seems that there are some differences in the choke stay mechanism between the 1980 (made in Japan)and the 1981-1983 GL1100's that were made in USA.(as with some other parts)
after winadmin's post- I pulled out the choke knob all the way out, grabbed the rubber cap and peeled it outward to find that inside , there is another separate ,small plastic cap (like a small bottle type cap with a hole in the center), that you can screw and tighten around the choke shaft- and this is what's holding it in the chosen position . all these years I thought that the rubber cap is just a dust cover , but now I saw that it covers the cap that controls the pressure on the cable and holds it from going back in.
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Re: GL1100 -choke knob problem

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Well I have an 83 interstate and my choke cable is on the left handlebar. I have to pull it towards me to activate the choke. My problem now is it come towards me with no problem, but does not open the choke. I get nothing. Any help there?????
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Maybe you need to check at the end of the cable, down where it pulls the choke lever in the carburator? if it is not tightened ,the cable is moving in& out inside the outer cablet without actually doing anything..
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Well thanks for your advice and information. I had already checked the cable and it was tight and working like it was supposed to. The problem, believe it or not, was really simple. After looking at the linkage moving back and forth, I noticed the small round linkage was hanging up on the left side where the plates were. I bent that back so it would not get in front of the black cap and everything started working normal again. Thanks for your help, anyhow. It was appreciated.
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ok, i COMPLETELY mis-understood the locking procedure for the choke cable and it cost me a busted knob it split in half) . speaking of which, it's odd how the knob is installed at the factory. seems to be molded on so it looks like my only option for repairing is a good glue job.
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Your wife might hate you - but you need to carry in your emergency tool kit - a clothes peg (maybe two) - if the cable lock adjuster has snapped or broken - pull out the choke as you would normally - and insert Mr Peg onto the cable - if necessary you could also add another if required. - not an elegant solution - but it saves having to hang onto the choke until the bike is warm - and if you lose the peg - well just throw your clothes in the dryer... lol (remember to buy your wife some more pegs for mothers day too - keep in the good books) :D
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Re: GL1100 -choke knob problem

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hi, aussie

it wasn't the locking ring that broke ... twas the choke knob itself.


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