Starter issue?


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Starter issue?

Post by diverobin » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:22 pm



Hi everyone.
Question...sometimes my 1981 Interstate has trouble starting. The starter can't seem to turn the engine over. If I rock the bike a few times in gear, enough to turn the crank a few times, it will then start ok. More often than not she starts fine, but I have had this problem more often lately. Do I need to clean and rebuild the starter, or is it something else?

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Re: Starter issue?

Post by RBGERSON » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:27 am

Possible hydrolock?? gas in the cylinder exhausted when you rock the bike?? Petcock off?? or not??
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Re: Starter issue?

Post by diverobin » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:51 am

Hi
It doesn't make a difference if the petcock is off or on, and no gas exhausted when I rock the bike. I don't know what a hydrolock is. IT just seems that the starter literally can't turn the engine over sometimes. I was thinking it is just a gummed up starter, not getting enough current?
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Re: Starter issue?

Post by Johnyy Smoke » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:49 pm

Hydro-lock is when gas seeps into the piston, and fills it up. This happens when the valves line up a certain way allowing gas to fill a cylinder (cylinders).It is a good idea to shut the pet-**** off when you park the bike, to avoid this situation. With so much gas in the piston, the bike cant start, perhaps resulting in damage to various components, you would rather not harm.
It could be your armature commutator on the starter is dirty, and the brushes need replaced. It can make quite a bit of difference when you start your bike. A excellent DIY is on this site for this particular problem. I followed it and recommend it. Bearings can be checked before replacing. I have found that cleaning the heck out of everything, especially the armature commutator, can do wonders. I haven't found a bad bearing yet. Regards, Johnny

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Re: Starter issue?

Post by diverobin » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:48 pm

Ok, thanks. I read the how to article on cleaning up the starter. Guess I had better have a go at that when I get the chance. :)
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Re: Starter issue?

Post by RBGERSON » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:48 am

Pull the spark plugs and then try to turn her over..if gas squirts out = hydrolock..note you don't want spark at the plugs so remove them or turn stop switch to off..OR BOOM..FIRE..IF YOU DO HAVE GAS SQUIRTING OUT!!
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Re: Starter issue?

Post by Oldbear » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:12 pm

Along with all the other advice - I'll add mine.

Check your wiring and solenoid for the starter circuit. One of my connectors had got a little hot and melted, making for a bad connection and a huge current lose. I also pulled the starter and did the rebuild/service mentioned the the DIY section. Made a huge difference to my Wing.
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Re: Starter issue?

Post by Dan J » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:10 pm

When you have your starter out don't forget to check the minimum depth of 2mm from the commutator bars to the Mica insulation. The "Service Manual says" the grooves may "be undercut with a thin hacksaw blade". I used a Dremel tool with a cutoff blade when I went through my starter and it worked great.

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Re: Starter issue?

Post by MTChauncey » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:10 pm

Loving the advice in this thread.



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