Heated Gear


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Heated Gear

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Hello everyone,

Does anybody have any experience with heated gear on a GL1100? I've got a brand new heavy duty (whatever that means, since there's no output numbers) Caltric stator on my bike, but I'm honestly not sure what I can get away with as far as watts. I don't want to spend big bucks on a 90 watt jacket liner if I can only make enough power for a pair of 20 watt glove liners.

Anybody have any input? My bike is 100% stock, minus a USB charger I installed for my phone. No extra lights or other drawing items. Brand new battery and good connections all around.

I've been laid up from surgery for almost 2 months, so I need to stretch this riding season as long as I can!




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And before it's suggested, I am not at all interested in the Poorboy conversion. My timing belt covers look too pretty to drill through!


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I also want to know what happens if you ride with heated gear, that draws more power, than the bike puts out?
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Power ( watts ) = I ( amps ) times E ( volts )

We know the watts, and we know the volts ( assuming 13.6 here ),
so a bit of extrapolation turns that around to:

Amps = 90 watts / 13.6 volts or, 6.6 amps.


IF, your bike has only the stock OEM lights on it, I predict that the stator has enough spare power to keep the battery up, as long as, the engine is turning fast enough to make the stator give full output.... probably 2500 rpm or greater.

IF, you monitor the voltage ( panel voltmeter ) and notice the volts dropping a bit on a cold day, pull some fuses for the extra lights, and be warm...

That is how I handled it....


You probably are already aware, that the stator is running at full output ( for the RPM ) at all times. And if that output is greater than needed to keep the battery at 13.6 volts, then the Regulator must dump the excess current to ground.... that is why the Regulator runs so hot on stator systems...

In your case, the Regulator probably will run cold as ice, as the heated gloves will pull all the extra current away from the Regulator.... a Win Win situtation me thinks.
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Standard stator barely keeps up with the light draws and battery charging. Changing all lights to LEd types especially the headlight..will give you extra juice for heating..but I'd say you need a high output stator to run vest and gloves.

If the draw is more than the stator can handle two things can happen battery gets under charged less than 12 v's and eventually is drained to dead, then if yoiu stop for gas/food/etc and try to restart it's dead. and/or the heated items don't heat to their full potential or both.
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Re: Heated Gear

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Real experience from someone who has ridden in winter since 1982...
Bike now: '83 GL1100A.
Equipment: Heated grips (Trackmaster); Heated seat (homebuilt with Hyundai seat element/GM blower resistor/two position switch); heated vest and chaps (Widder).
I could (before I added LED headlight) run two of these continuously without problem. With LED headlight, I anticipate running all three without problems.
The charging system has a good deal of extra capacity, although that has been improved on newer bikes. Do not believe those who state it is only *just* up to the task of keeping the bike running, my experience should prove otherwise.
Too, my heated seat takes more power to run than a designed unit, just so you know.

In summary, running the vest and gloves will prove no problem at all. Really. I believe my real world experience should encourage you.

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For six years now I am running a First Gear heated jacket and First Gear heated gloves rated at 90 watts. Riding a1983 'Wing with a stock charging system . Stock type headlight and a sealed battery. I have had no problems what so ever. Not even close. I will not put my bike away and ride regularly in winter. (15 degrees is my best on a 32 mile ride to work). Get the best gear ya can and RIDE!
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Thanks for your input everyone, especially those with first hand experience. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a jacket liner and gloves and see how she handles it.
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Wilcoy02 wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:16 pm I also want to know what happens if you ride with heated gear, that draws more power, than the bike puts out?
I had both a heated jacket liner and gloves on my GL1100. I had converted almost all of my lights to LED.

At idle, the stator puts out nowhere near enough to run the bike and lights and everything else, so your bike will run off the battery. Leave it idling for too long, and it will die when the battery dies - maybe an hour or two, depending on what you have running.

If you switched out your headlight for an LED headlight, and perhaps swap the taillight and fairing bulbs to LED, you could probably gain back enough to run the gloves and liner with no issues. The headlight draws a LOT of power.


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