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ljurgens
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How much should I do?

Post by ljurgens » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:01 pm



Hello,
Asking the experts and seasoned vets here. Sorry for the long post...
I have an 83 GL1100 Interstate that I was gifted from a friend who wanted the bike to be back in my family. My FIL bought it new and between him and my friend (and his dad) the bike has 200,235 miles on it. I plan to pass her down to my son when we are done rebuilding her (and I've had a chance to ride her a bit :-)) She had been garaged for a couple of seasons prior to my picking her up. PO told me she ran great down the road but the brakes were starting to go and he didn't want to put any money into the bike. I confirmed she does run and the gauges and lights all seemed to be working.

I cleaned her up good and removed all of the fairings, trunk and bags and false tank and have her torn down to a basic nakedness at this point and am planning to do all basic maintenance to her before we put her back on the road. I am planning to leave everything off the bike except for the basics and the rear saddlebags. I had been thinking I should pull the engine and clean it and paint it and the frame but looking at it today the engine is really pretty clean and I'm thinking anything I need to paint I can do with the motor in the frame. I have read the threads on the new to you wings, and will read them few more times. I have been riding for about 5 years, I am pretty mechanical, with plenty of tools, a HF bike jack and a small flat scissor jack. I have a dedicated space in the garage to work on her and I am a decent DIY'r. I ordered a Clymer manual and have printed the service manual as well.

After reading up on this site and others, I plan to do the following, please correct anything here and tell me if there is an order I should do this in and what I am obviously missing:
1. Timing belts and set value clearance
2. Check water pump - rebuild as needed
3. New fuel lines
4. New radiator hoses, thermostat and radiator cap
5. Rebuild calipers (front and back)
6. Rebuild master cylinders
7. New brake pads
8. New brake lines and flush all fluid
9. Test shocks - rebuild as needed
10. Fork seals and fluid
11. Remove and clean wheels, replace wheel bearings
12. New tires
13. Remove, clean and regrease the final drive
14. Remove, clean and paint the gas tank
15. Polish the timing covers, intake tubes and the round covers on the carbs
16. New spark plugs
17. Find a new headlight bucket, headlight and ears
18. Find new blinkers from and rear
19. Fit a set of Harley mufflers (I have a few friends who are giving me choice of their take offs)
20. New oil and filter
21. New air cleaner
22. New battery
23. Clean and paint anything else I can find

Should I replace the the bearings in the steering head (neck)?
Are there other bearings to replace and check? (swing arm?)
Is there anything else I need to check on the engine?
Since I won't be putting the fairing back on, is there wiring I can remove from the harness?
Thank you for all the advice I have already found on the forum, its all really amazing content.
-Lance (whew...)


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Re: How much should I do?

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:18 pm

REF: the steering head bearings.

Lift the front wheel off the ground.

Turn the handlebar lock to lock with a very light finger tip pressure.

As you go through the center straight ahead position, do you feel any notchiness at all?
That is a new word I just coined :mrgreen:

If the bearings are bad, you will feel resistance as you try to move it either right or left off of center.

If it is smooth, they are good to go.
But, keep in mind, that they are very old now, and the grease has long ago dried up.
I would at a minimum take them out, clean them, and lube them up good with a good axle type grease. Those bearings will have a lot of pressure on them, so a lightweight grease won't be good to use.

Battery: get an AGM, do not get one of the old style wet cells.

Timing Belts: if they have not ever been changed, or no records of it being done.
Replace them, cheap insurance. If one of them jumps a tooth, the engine is toast.

Tires: How old are they? if over 5 years, that is the accepted usable life span.

16. New spark plugs: Can't hurt, they are cheap.

7. New brake pads: look at them, does the thickness look good? measure them, compare to the manual.

5. Rebuild calipers (front and back): Just take them apart, clean them good, and put them back together.... unless you see an obvious seal that is bad, those are cheap also.

the rest of your list looks fairly straight forward.
I would not paint the engine, but that is a matter of personal preference.
~John

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by DaveO430 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:21 am

My reply shall be the same as at the other place.

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by chrisz » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:21 am

My #2 would be to synch the carbs.

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by Overdog » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:46 am

While you have the battery cover off disconnect the plug from the charging system (three yellow wires). If there's ANY evidence of discoloring, melting or corrosion, eliminate the plugs and solder the wires.

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by Rednaxs60 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:48 am

Ref: Steering stem bearings - if you are going to go to the trouble to take out the old, clean, grease and re-install, put in new. To properly do the bottom bearing it will have to be removed anyway. Will be good for another 200K. All Balls steering stem bearing kit is approximately $25.00 CDN - less in USD.

Swing arm bearings, 36 years old, same comment. If you are going to take out, clean, grease and put back in - use new.

Thinking out loud. Cheers
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Re: How much should I do?

Post by Rednaxs60 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:57 am

Overdog wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:46 am
While you have the battery cover off disconnect the plug from the charging system (three yellow wires). If there's ANY evidence of discoloring, melting or corrosion, eliminate the plugs and solder the wires.
Some have just replaced the OEM connector with new high ampere rated connectors such as the Metri-Pack 630 rated for up to 46 amps. An issue with the OEM connectors is the ampere rating of the connectors. Don't know the rating of the OEM connector. Here is a site for this connector: https://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec ... -pack.html

A lot of problems from old connectors is cleanliness and lack of maintenance resulting in high resistance. Would recommend cleaning of all the connectors. Get a pin removal tool, clean and reinstall pins. Maintenance never goes unrewarded.

Cheers
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Re: How much should I do?

Post by eklimek » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:53 am

<t>I have a 83 that I bought when the sprague clutch failed to engage. There is a thread to this.<br/>
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Carburetor is key to smooth running. Usually one of the idle circuits is dysfunctional. It does not affect running otherwise. <br/>
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The 83 is, in my opinion, much the better of the gl1100 series. The reworked gear ratios better align with todays traffic speeds. With 200,00 miles I wonder if maybe you might not find a better subject for the extensive work you plan. Keep it as a family heirloom.<br/>
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Ed</t>

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by ljurgens » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:18 pm

Thanks for the great tips! A few have mentioned replacing the engine, the bike is really very clean and seems to have been maintained very well. I know my FIL did. Not much for leaks anywhere. I know the head gaskets have been replaced once. I think I'll do the basics in my list and replace any sensors that are hard to reach once back together and go with it.
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Re: How much should I do?

Post by purgeraptor » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:48 am

As above and replace the in-line fuel filter

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by ljurgens » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:13 pm

Ok, I'm getting close to having it stripped down as far as I am going to. The coolant actually looked pretty good, I'm going to take the front cover off and check the waterpump.
A few of questions:
1. How do I remove the rear brake pedal? It is stuck and doesn't move without considerable force.
2. I jacked up the front of the bike and tested the steering head. It feels very smooth and there is no play at all, can I assume things are good and leave it alone?
3. With the rear wheel out, I moved the swing arm around as well and it feels very solid with no wiggling. Same as #2?
4. When I take the valve covers and timing covers off, are there gaskets I'll need to replace?
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Re: How much should I do?

Post by DaveO430 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:10 pm

To get the brake pedal off there is a cotter pin on the end of the pivot, remove it and disconnect the linkage & the brake switch spring. Spray penetrant on the pivot, raise the pedal up and unhook the spring, and work the pedal up & down while pushing it off the pivot. A hammer may also be needed. You may need new valve cover gaskets depending on how hard they are.

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by Wilcoy02 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:52 pm

Use the old gaskets. If they leak they are not hard to replace. If you do replace use only oem.

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by ljurgens » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:37 am

I checked the water pump and it felt pretty loose in the housing so I am assuming I will need to replace that. Looks simple enough except I am having a hard time finding a kit for the gaskets. Is there a "kit" for the transmission cover gaskets and o-rings? Anyone have a link or part#? Best place to buy the oem pump?
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Re: How much should I do?

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:03 pm

ljurgens wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:37 am
I checked the water pump and it felt pretty loose in the housing so I am assuming I will need to replace that. Looks simple enough except I am having a hard time finding a kit for the gaskets. Is there a "kit" for the transmission cover gaskets and o-rings? Anyone have a link or part#? Best place to buy the oem pump?
Hit up Cyclemax here: http://cyclemax.com/gl1000_gl1100

You'll find both the water pump and the water pump gasket kit about halfway down the page.

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Re: How much should I do?

Post by ljurgens » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:33 pm

Thanks WingAdmin, are there any coupon codes or discounts for forum membership etc?
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Re: How much should I do?

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:56 pm

ljurgens wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:33 pm
Thanks WingAdmin, are there any coupon codes or discounts for forum membership etc?
No...Cyclemax already has pretty much the lowest prices going, they aren't really able to offer much in the way of discounts, as they would have no margin remaining. The good news though is that you're getting a good price from the start, instead of a jacked-up price that you then have to try to find discounts for.



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