GL1100A with sidecar


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GL1100A with sidecar

Post by Goldskooler » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:52 am



Morning Everyone. I've gone ahead and bought this character last year. It has a lot trust me, and have spent most of the winter rewiring the sidecar. And most of the main electrics front and back. It did run, until the clutch cable went out, and it has been replaced. However, I've not yet confirmed it's operation.

Anyway cut a long story short..I've got a few tech questions unique to this rig.

I'm looking for LED bulbs to replace the 22 in the light bars. However they need to be quite short, as the lens cover on the new assemblies sit lower, than the originals.

The air shock on the side car. Does anyone know what make or model, would be a good replacement?. The front end seal is shot.

And the windshield on the sidecar. This is a headache at speed. Does anyone know where I can beg, borrow, or even buy a much shorter one?

Thanks for any help

Jaime
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Re: GL1100A with sidecar

Post by froche » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:58 am

All GW have a stator which makes full voltage/amps at all RPM, though the voltage/amps varies with the RPM. At a red light with the brake on, a blinker flashing and the radio turned on the stator output is lower than the bike needs to run. That's why (among other reasons) we have a battery, to provide extra current (voltage/amps) for when the stator isn't putting out enough. The regulator/rectifier takes unneeded current and shorts it to ground, so if you reduce the need for current (by replacing the bulbs with leds for example) you increase the regulator/rectifier load. Generally Honda engineers got the calculations about correct so either increasing or reducing the current loads can both do damage to the electrical system. Sure reducing the current a bit is good especially since most haven't done maintenance to the electrical system and have a no longer new battery. Also leds usually have a resistor in them so they operate on (in this case) 12 volts but draw less (note that blinkers on motorcycles of the age of the GW typically don't blink without a new blinker Assembly designed for leds). Headlights generally use a power supply to turn 12 volts into whatever the headlights requires and increasing the lumens (new term used in leds instead of watts) beyond the stock bulbs wattage (now lumens) can give you more light at the same or similar "wattage" as your old bulb.

In a farkled up GW with lots of lights leds can be helpful, or in the brake lights can help the load...

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Re: GL1100A with sidecar

Post by Goldskooler » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:27 pm

Thanks Froche. So in a nutshell, keep stock where ever possible. I've already gone through the wiring for the sidecar lightbar, and it frankly was a mess of butt splices, and wire nuts. The new square lights , can still be bought $10 for a pair from Iron Pony

https://shop.ponypowersports.com/chris- ... d=18292362

Still after a part number or size for the sidecar shock. For some reason, the chrome option was picked. Even though you'll never see it. Out of all the small jobs this bike still needs, the shock is one of the more critical tasks.

It's fun to drive, most of the time. A strong headwind, and a messy right turn may end up bad. So I'm normally at the back of the pack with the Trash Wagon. I'm out for the ride. Rode this down to Louisville for Kentucky Kickdown, and performed very well.

I'll see after this season, if I wish to keep it.

Jaime
Last edited by Goldskooler on Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

froche
Posts: 129
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:56 pm
Location: Vista, ca
Motorcycle: 1985 Goldwing Aspencade (GL1200A

Former bikes;
2000 R1100RT
2005 Suzuki Bandit
1979 Yamaha XS1100
1978 Yamaha XS1100 Special
1990 Yamaha XV250
1980 Yamaha XV750
1979 Honda CB750
1968 Triumph Bonneville T120
1973 Honda CB450
1968 Harley Davidson Sportster
1974 Honda CB750
1968 Honda CL72

Re: GL1100A with sidecar

Post by froche » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:40 pm

the part number doesn't find any...

The shock needs some kind of part number... Maybe the sidecar brand model number?

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Re: GL1100A with sidecar

Post by Goldskooler » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:21 pm

Updated the link.

The sidecar is a hitchhiker brand, I’ll track them down, and see if they still have part numbers. Thanks for your help.

Jaime

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Re: GL1100A with sidecar

Post by WingAdmin » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:39 am

Those lights on the light bar are fairly common, used by a lot of manufacturers. There are LED replacements that you can buy, lens, frame, everything. I put them on my 1100's rail, and they worked great.



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