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Hello again, You guys have already helped me out lots with my "new to me" 82 1100A but I have to get your advice once again on something else. When I start my bike in the morning I used to give it full choke, hit the start button and it fires up, slow down the choke to about 2,000 to 2,500 rpm's until it starts warming up and adjust accordingly. The only thing is I get a nice shot of blue smoke coming out just on start up and when it warms up a but its all good. It sounds like I am choking it to much so I am asking how much choke do you guys give your bike? Do you give it any throttle while its being choked? Just so you know when I started it today it was only 4 degrees outside or 40 degrees faren. It sat in a garage all night ( not heated) but at least it was out of the crazy cold. Thanks for your help and let me know what you think.


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You will often get a shot of blue smoke. mostly from the left side (moreso when on side stand)as the oil creeps down that side a bit. Will burn off quite quickly. I usually store mine in the garage on the center stand and that reduces the blue smoke problem. I also give mine full choke then immediately feather it down after she fires. I don't have to crank the throttle. Usually warm her up between 1500 & 2000 RPM (closer to 2). The air does have a fall nip in it here on the prairies!
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Thanks Jonsey, I see your in Manitoba and we have the same bike. I can’t believe that it always smokes. I have a Shadow and it never smokes on start up. I am thinking that there is too much choking going on and hence the smoke. Ok I will count the votes and we have 1 “it will always smoke”..lol... anyone else?
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I most always equate blue smoke with oil and darker blackish smoke with too rich. Try your bike on the center stand. We don't exactly have the same bike as the 83 aspencade had a digital gauge set etc. and slightly different gearing with OD. That being said my 83 is now a stripped down, 83 standard look alike. It now has 82 analogue gauges etc. etc. Enjoy your new ride. BTW my 99 Valkyrie doesn't smoke either but just about all older Goldwings do if parked on the sidestand for any length of time. Does that get me an extra half vote?
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Yes Jonezy I will knock you down from 1 vote to half a vote for “Honda’s always smoke” ...lol I just started it cold again and tried to start it with only half choke but she wouldn’t go. I then went full choke and upon start up I cut it back to half and immediately went with some throttle but it was barely running and not liking it at all. I’ll wait for some more people to give opinions.
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My 83 will give a little puff of blue smoke if I leave it on the side stand for more than about a week or so. If I ride it more often, it doesn't happen.

Think about the design of these motors. When the bike is on the side stand, the left cylinders are pointing at the ground. It's most likely just a small amount of oil working it's way past the valve stem seals. Nothing to be concerned about as long as it clears up right after startup.

To start mine, I give it full choke, one twist of the throttle, and it lights up the second I touch the starter button. I'm not a fan of idling a cold motor at 2500-3000 rpm, so I usually drop the choke almost all the way off and use the throttle lock to let it idle around 2000 rpm. By the time I get my gear it, it's warm enough to ride off.
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When I start mine with the choke I have to keep my hand on the choke to keep it functioning.As soon as I let go of the choke the choke starts to go in or turn off. It may take like 2 to 3 seconds to go down but then when it does it usually runs terrible because it is not warmed up so I usually sit there for like 30 seconds or so and hold the choke know up to keep the rpm's up. Should I just use the choke to start it and then just shut down the choke totally but keep the rpm's up a bit with the throttle? Thanks again for your help!
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You can tighten it so it will stay on when you pull it out. See this topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14483
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Thanks wing admin. That helped and fixed the problem. When you start your bike cold how much choke and or throttle do you give it and what rpm's do you set to warm up your bike?
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I keep my rpm's around 1800-2000 during warm up. ('83 Aspencade)
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First start of the day - Summer days the 1100 fires right up with no choke at all (say 60°F) but Springtime or Fall (those "nippy" mornings) I have to use choke (pull out to full and immediately reduce to half) otherwise she's a little sputtery the first mile or so. After the first mile choke is 'off'. The 1500 is more-or-less the same way.... I don't usually warm them up much more than the few seconds it takes to put on helmet and maybe gloves and back out of the garage, just start 'em and go....
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I must be the odd man out on this one. I ride daily to work in Illinois until the snow falls. (record low ride is 15 degrees, 32 miles one way at 5:00 a.m.) I always start the old girl (100,000 miles and counting) with no choke at all. 2 twists of the grip and she starts. Let it run until the oil light goes off then choke to 1500 rpm till I get my gear on. And never any smoke.....
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Ah.......heck.......everyone does it a bit differently. What matters is that it RUNS, and you RIDE..!!
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Wow "ride not hide" that is totally different from everyone else but whatever works. I fixed my choke tensioner and did my first start since then today and it worked out a lot better. I first tried just giving it a little gas with a little choke and it fired up but stalled right away. I then gave it 2/3's of full choke and it fired up and kept running and the rpm's went up to over 2500 so I tried taking it down to 1800 like some other people here but it knocks a bit so I took it back up to 2,000 until the knock was gone and it was good. I guess like everything else with this bike I have to learn what it likes. I was reading on the forum about synchronizing your carbs" and I think I have to do that as when it is on low rpm's or idle it knocks and pings all over but once you give it a bit of gas its all good. Has anyone else Synced their carbs? I saw a great video on YouTube about it with the exact same bike so that will help.
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You probably need a sync then, these 1100's will knock and rattle like a bucket of loose bolts on idle if they're not sync'ed up good....
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Hey TonyE, go for the sync. Super easy to do and can do wonders for what ails ya. I prefer to use the vacuum gauges over the carb sticks. Follow you service manual for the order to sync one carb to the next. I also like to run a little spray in carb cleaner through the intake (after taking the air filter out) every couple of years and a treatment of seafoam once a year. I am also running Rotella diesel oil and it made an improvement.
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The very first thing I do is check my oil level, before starting the engine. Then I give it a full choke, no throttle at all, and just push the start button. The engine climbs to 3000 rpm. After a couple of seconds I open the choke a bit, and bring the engine down to between 1500 and 2000 rpm. I'm never in a rush, so I leave it there until its at operating temperature. And while that's happening I'm checking lights and tire pressure, and installing ear-plugs, and taking care of pre-ride details like that. Then I open the choke completely, and ride.
I always park the bike on its centre-stand, because as others have suggested, parking it for any extended length of time allows oil to seep past the valve guides and collect in the combustion chamber. That oil burns off after start up. Hence the blue smoke. I only ever leave it on its side-stand for short periods of time. Going into a restaurant for a while, or whatever. You probably didn't see it on your Shadow because the valve guides would be vertical I believe, as opposed to the Goldwings horizontal configuration. The older it gets, the more seepage. :lol: I'm hardly an expert on this stuff, so if anyone wishes to correct me I'd be interested.

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The oil seepage into the cylinders is not so much the valve guides as it is the little pool of oil on the "backside" of the pistons laying in the bottom of the cylinder bores, running "downhill" on a tilted engine and seeping past the rings into the combustion chamber. Bike on the center stand removes that "tilt", and any oil laying in the crankcase side of the cylinder bores just stays where it is..
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Good one. I never have to choke mine. Even on the first start of the riding season. I will say it is right on the verge of stalling but it picks up fine shortly after it runs a minute or two. Hope I didn't just jinx myself :roll:


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