1982 GL1100A Upshifting without using clutch


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Joe Bartell
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1982 GL1100A Upshifting without using clutch

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I find it easy and smooth to upshift without using the clutch. I used to shift my old truck by juking the throttle with no problems.

Will doing this with my motorcycle cause damage or does it indicate problems?

Thanks for your help.


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Re: 1982 GL1100A Upshifting without using clutch

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Does not indicate a problem. But I don't recommend it.
Yes, you can shift a manual transmission without the clutch. Some guys do it out of laziness. Some do it to show off a "skill". Some claim its the fastest way to rip through the gears in drag race mode. Upshifting is easier, but it can be done downshifting. Both require some feel for throttle usage. There is a "phantom neutral" between each gear as the moveable member can't be engaged in two gears at the same time. In my opinion its not an impressive skill. You could "learn" it with minimal practice. It does take a toll on the drive train as it forces an abrupt immediate change in engine speed upon completion of the shift. If there is no torque on the engine, or you have just the perfect amount of throttle for the new gear ratio, this change can be handled by the toughness of the drive components. Additional wear may take years and miles to show up, so many guys claim there is no downside. But I don't treat my bike that way.
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Re: 1982 GL1100A Upshifting without using clutch

Post by WingAdmin »

This question comes up every so often, usually when someone posts something along the lines of, "hey, I do this all the time, and nothing bad has happened yet, so it's fine, everyone should do it!"

Have a read through this piece I wrote a few years back on this topic: Shifting without clutch
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Re: 1982 GL1100A Upshifting without using clutch

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Much thanks for the feedback guys! I want to treat my bike right and it sounds like “no clutch” shifting is not a good idea considering I really like my bike and don’t want to hurt her!


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