Goldwing 1983


Information and questions on GL1100 Goldwings (1980-1983)
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Btkachuk
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Goldwing 1983

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Please help.
I have 1983 goldwing gl1100. I tried to replace yesterday 11/14/19 solenoid. Someone before also replaced plug that was supposed to go in with just 4 wires so i decided to install plug back. Replaced solenoid, tried to start my bike and nothing happened. I felt starter was hot and solenoid + wire hot as well. I took battery off reinstalled wires back and original solenoid. So my issue is everything works on bike but when I'm trying to start nothing... No crank no any sounds at all.


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I'm not familiar with 1100s, but first check the starter switch to make sure it is working properly (making contact and passing current). Then check the kill switch to make sure its not shorted out (you can bypass it with a jumper). Also check the ignition switch for proper function.
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I forgot to mention on my post. When i felt that starter was hot i noticed small smoke coming from ground wires i believe on left side of steering wheel by clutch there is 2 small sealed wires.
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raven41951 wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:39 am I'm not familiar with 1100s, but first check the starter switch to make sure it is working properly (making contact and passing current). Then check the kill switch to make sure its not shorted out (you can bypass it with a jumper). Also check the ignition switch for proper function.
I forgot to mention on my post. When i felt that starter was hot i noticed small smoke coming from ground wires i believe on left side of steering wheel by clutch there is 2 small sealed wires. Could it be the issue? I have donor bike and was planning to replace both sides.
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Ground wires are notorious for developing bad connections. The high resistance cause by poor conductivity is heating up the wires cause the insulation to burn. Clean the wire connections to assure good conductivity and that should help but not necessarily cure the problem.
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what is the history of this bike ... is it something you just bought and are resurrecting or have you owned it for sometime and it has just recently developed a no-crank problem ?
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winguyjo wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:49 pm what is the history of this bike ... is it something you just bought and are resurrecting or have you owned it for sometime and it has just recently developed a no-crank problem ?
I bought it to fix it and restore it. I always had dream to buy harley Davidson but because honda even for 1983 looks kind of better than Harley i will post photo. So i bought a bike that been seating on older gentlemen back yard for a year. He drained oil and fuel he said to see make sure no water in system. When i bought i double checked that, negative. So i decided to start from simple stuff i replaced engine oil, spark plugs, new fuel, coils. I bought a brand new battery and i decided to buy a donor bike 1983 goldwing as well. I still have to replace kill switch / start button and clutch donor bike has low miles so parts in better condition. I start the bike and 5 seconds later in died. I decided to replace solenoid as well with battery wire and wire from solenoid to starter. Also what i noticed that solenoid has to have plug in but it was only 4 wires i decided to install plug back(bad decision) try to start a bike again and i noticed that i fried clutch diode, starter was hot and battery wire. I turn the key off took battery away install original solenoid back with wires. Tried to start nothing. So i replaced starter i thought i burned original still nothing, no crank no any sounds. Lights works.
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There are aftermarket solenoids that are wired differently. So not plug and play. They will work but you have to modify them. Did you use a genuine Honda solenoid?
If you don't have one, get the Honda service manual with electrical diagrams. Money well spent.
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Rambozo wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:18 pm There are aftermarket solenoids that are wired differently. So not plug and play. They will work but you have to modify them. Did you use a genuine Honda solenoid?
If you don't have one, get the Honda service manual with electrical diagrams. Money well spent.
I just installed solenoid back how it was originally. So i have green neutral light on. Don't know what that means.
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" So i have green neutral light on. Don't know what that means" ...

this means that the transmission is in neutral. if it's lighting up when the transmission is NOT in neutral, that's another issue altogether. you can test by attempting to roll the bike while the neutral light is on.

even though you said the bike started and ran for 5 seconds before stalling, i would still want to rule out the possibility of hydro-lock. it is possible that it stalled because the float bowls were over-filling and eventually flooded the cylinders with gas. remove spark plugs and crank the engine with 12 volts directly to the + terminal on the starter and with negative going to a good clean ground (the body of the starter would be good). it's a good idea to loosely cover the spark plug holes with rags because whatever fluid may be in there gets pushed out with a LOT of force.
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winguyjo wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:01 pm " So i have green neutral light on. Don't know what that means" ...

this means that the transmission is in neutral. if it's lighting up when the transmission is NOT in neutral, that's another issue altogether. you can test by attempting to roll the bike while the neutral light is on.

even though you said the bike started and ran for 5 seconds before stalling, i would still want to rule out the possibility of hydro-lock. it is possible that it stalled because the float bowls were over-filling and eventually flooded the cylinders with gas. remove spark plugs and crank the engine with 12 volts directly to the + terminal on the starter and with negative going to a good clean ground (the body of the starter would be good). it's a good idea to loosely cover the spark plug holes with rags because whatever fluid may be in there gets pushed out with a LOT of force.
I will try that and will post the results. Thank you so far for help.
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Sometimes when you get a solenoid, depending on where you get it, it could be a "mirror image" meaning you need to put the 4 wires on in the reverse order that the OEM was. I went thru 3 of those solenoids before I found that out.

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