So I'm a moron....Gl1100 timing belt


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Bhink1100
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So I'm a moron....Gl1100 timing belt

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I have taken off the timing belts on my bike and no matter what I do, I cannot get the marks to stay lined up. I have clamped and still shifts. Is there anyone in southeastern Wisconsin willing to come by and help me complete this job? I'm in Lake Geneva. Payment of course. I think I bit off more than I can chew. :oops: :oops: :oops:



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Patience, my friend. Take a deep breath.
It sounds like you have found, and followed, info here about the procedure. So it's just a little detail about proper execution.
So how far does it shift when you release the clamps? If it is "off" by less than 1/2 tooth, it's OK. If you shifted it one tooth would it be farther "off" in the other direction?

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Thank you for the response...very grateful.
The crank shaft moves. I havent determined if there is play in the shaft or my wrench, but upon getting the belts on, the T-1 is moved significantly and the cogs are moved downward a full tooth

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I changed my belts earlier this year. I used a large clamp on both sides to hold the settings. When I put the new belts on, everything lined up. You said you clamped the pulleys? How could they move? I used these from Harbor Freight...

https://www.harborfreight.com/11-in-swi ... 63865.html

Maybe you start from scratch and take your time and use the tutorials you find.

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Re: So I'm a moron....Gl1100 timing belt

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The one that moves.. Put the belt on the # of teeth that moves. release the clamps and see if the movement lines up correctly.

Sorry I can't type what I'm a thinking.

Put the belt on not correctly lined up. However far it moves on you put the belt on .

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Ya - the right cam belt can be fun. I don't fight the valve spring, I let the right sprocket go where it wants - usually about two belt-cogs CCW from the timing mark, and turn the crank pulley a corresponding 2 belt cogs in the same direction from the T1 mark. Then put the belt on. After the belt is on, if you rotate the crank back to the T1 mark you should see the right cam is lined up correctly, too.
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Use a sharpie pen and mark tdc on the crankshaft pulley so you can easily note position and movement while working on the belts. It's awkward to keep having to peek down the hole in the back to see the T1 mark..

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Plus, when you've completed the swap out, use a Sharpie to record the date completed etc. on the inside cover, so you'll (or the next owner will) know when it was last done.

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So thank you all for your advice and encouragement. I completed the job. I really needed to settle down...so is it my imagination or does it actually run better after the job? Seems to be running very smooth now.

Thanks again!

Barry

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Post by elementfe »

I tried so hard to get the sprockets to stay in place, and finally just compensated on one of them, put it on one or two teeth off, and made sure it was right when it was on and tensioned.
It's a little funny doing it that way, but it's easy to make sure everything is right, by the marks.
You'll get it!



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