"New" 1983 Aspencade


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"New" 1983 Aspencade

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So I purchased a 1983 Honda Goldwing GL1100A Aspencade and after I got her home she started a slow oil leak. I have no clue how to troubleshoot or where to look. Apparently this isn't supposed to happen with Goldwings. I'm totally new to motorcycles outside of Harley, Triumph, and Indian. Outside of the sudden oil leak that's been happening for a week and two days now. The to-do list is as follows:

Find tools and shop rags
Rebuild and clean carbs
Replace Starter
Replace Stator
Reassemble




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Welcome to the forum

Please be more specific.
Where is the oil leak?
Is it leaking sitting or running?
How much leakage?

Why are you replacing the stator?
Do you know how old the timing belts are? If not replace before trying to start. Broken belt equals broken engine.
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Just picked her up like a week and a half ago with my stimulus.
She's sitting.
Slow leak is below the left exhaust pipe, and a little behind the engine.
Someone said feel around for where it might be coming from and cautiously sniff to see if Water, Oil, or Coolant and check the radiator for any color other than green.
I do not know how old the belts are.
Was also told to clean carbs with Sea Foam.

I need to do this on a budget so if you have any eBay links to the timing belts and/or gears that I need, please send them. Any pictures and/or step by step video's would help also.










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You will find everyone on this site is cheap.

The timing belts can be had at napa 250274
oil filter fram ch6009 or purlator ml16809

Everyone who gets a gl1100 say to change the timing belt because age unknown can lead to engine failure. Not all but can. They willl look brand new but how long has it sat at the spot it is in?? 10, 15 years?

Yes put some sea foam in the gas tank and also the oil. Will clean out the old oil gunk and stuff.
Why a stator replacement? If stator is bad you can do the poor boy pulley and alternator. Cheaper and you have a lot more power for electrical stuff. Don't have to crack the engine. And lot cheaper.

Find a site for a honda dealer who has a parts list for gl1100. Bookmark it. You can find your part number then google just that part number for the best price.

As far as tutorials at the top of any page on this forum is How-to-articles. You will learn a lot on that page.

Keep us posted.
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Sorry about that, I knew I forgot something.

Don't know how long it's been sitting.

Previous owner said he was going to go cafe racer with it but got wrapped up in other things and just didn't have time to finish messing with her. Hasn't modded her. And said that all I needed to do was to change the starter, clean the carbs, and replace the stator.

I'm totally noob with this venture outside of what research I've done so-far.

Anyway, thank you for all the help and advice.
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https://www.randakksblog.com/starting-a ... ng-lay-up/

hopefully that link will work. i followed it pretty much to the letter when i got my first wing and it worked great !
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p.s. i would take everything the previous owner said with a large dose of salt. these starters respond well to new brushes, cleaning and fresh lube. if you are on a budget you might even get away with re-using the old brushes if they are within spec. i would get the bike running and test the stator before going ahead and replacing it. search "3 yellow wires" ... known issue with these bikes.
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That is a very nice list.
The gl1100 and gl1000 engines are very similar. Follow the list and you will be glad you did.
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New starter brushes are really cheap, I'd just replace 'em.

The best price I've seen for Timing belts is from Amazon, last I looked the Gates T274 belts were about $17 each, about half the price from the auto parts stores
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Before I found this forum I'd already purchased a new stator with gasket, a starter, and a carb rebuild kit. Since I've already, apparently screwed up. With what little money I have I get the belts and follow the check list? How do I spin the engine on the starter? What kind of coolant do I get when I replace it? How much am I going to be out by going the check list?
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To hand turn the engine--Take the plug off the very back of the engine. Also take the cap off the top near the back. The top one you will be able to see the timing marks on the engine. Hand turn the engine over 2 times to see the different timing marks. I think it is 17mm to turn it.

Testing the starter take it off and bench test it.

Anti freeze needs NO silicate it it. Car AF will not work.

Oil == I always use Honda oil. It has the stuff in it for your clutch to work correctly. There are other types of oil you can use. NOT car oil. Maybe some one else will tell which can be used.

Get the engine running before you worry about the leaks.

Here is a link of what I did to a bike I picked up. It has some of the parts numbers that you might find helpful.

Also a good idea for you to keep a list of what you do to your bike.
https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/ ... 72&start=0
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Ok, so I was able to get:

Timing Belt x2
Air Filter
Oil Filter
Fuel Filter
Spark Plugs
Oil

And for now I'm tapped.
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Small update: The leak, I swiped my finger through the puddle and cautiously sniffed at it and didn't smell anything. It was oily but thin, really thin, so it's not an oil leak. Possibly the anti-freeze? Speaking of which I popped my radiator cap to check for any color other than green. It was so full that I can't take the cap off without a drain pan. What I DID see of green followed a trail through the frame near to where the puddle is. So, now I'm trying to get the rest of the stuff to go through the check list.
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nuttda1 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:58 pm Small update: The leak, I swiped my finger through the puddle and cautiously sniffed at it and didn't smell anything. It was oily but thin, really thin, so it's not an oil leak. Possibly the anti-freeze? Speaking of which I popped my radiator cap to check for any color other than green. It was so full that I can't take the cap off without a drain pan. What I DID see of green followed a trail through the frame near to where the puddle is. So, now I'm trying to get the rest of the stuff to go through the check list.
Give it a quick taste on your tongue. If it's antifreeze, it will taste sweet.

If it is thin and oily (i.e. won't mix with water), it could be brake fluid.

Antifreeze will mix with water. Oil and brake fluid will not.
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I also replaced the stator - paid over $1,600 for Greg's Performance Cycle. They told me the battery wasn't charging and there was no other option. They also told me that the alternator fix was only applicable to the 1200cc and wasn't possible with the 1983 GL1100.

The leak seems like it could be from an overflow hose (fuel), or antifreeze overflow. And if you get oil around the pipes, it could be burning off an overfilled oil reservoir. It could also be a leak from the gas line from the tank, or any connection such as to the inline fuel filter, or the fuel filter could be weathered.

All the hoses are very cheap, as is the fuel filter, so may as well just replace them all anyway.
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Random question: Does my bike have a CB AND a Radio? I have CB controls next to the radio controls and CB controls on the handlebars next to the clutch.
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I just have radio controls (tone and mute) next to the clutch. But I installed an aftermarket stereo with blue tooth so it doesn't matter.
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So there are upgrades to bring these bikes closer to the current era?
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Sure. You could get something like this https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Marine-Blue ... B01FFAMDPO

Or this other model available with a cover (sold separately)
https://www.amazon.com/Marine-Stereo-Re ... B07YZ913K5
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Wow! Nice! What about updating things like the hand controls, exhaust, fairings, seat, top box, LED lights? Etc. How much retrofitting can be done?
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It's all just a matter of time and money. How much of each you are willing to invest?
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Update: Got a little bit of help from a friend. Not enough to go through the 35 point checklist. So I got a new battery, old was dead and done, got an oil drain pan and some tools. With the last bit I got a small socket kit and the spark plug gap tool. Another friend is going to get me the timing belt cover tool. So, now I can at the least do the oil change and tune-up. Get that part out of the way. Hopefully she'll run long enough for me to find a way to take care of the DMV fees, get my gear and riding license.
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sounds like you are on a REALLY tight budget, i know what that's like ... i would get a refund on the oil filter wrench, unless you plan on using it elsewhere ... you won't have any use for it on this bike. also, you mentioned a timing belt cover tool ... not necessary as you should be removing the rad and replacing the upper and lower rad hoses.
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Return the timing belt cover tool. It is pretty worthless.
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Got the starter changed out, new battery back in, shifter back on, new air filter in. Test fire results in vroom, backfire, and smoke (mostly from the left tailpipe). Oil change, oil filter, fuel filter, and plug change is next on the list. But will need Fresh Gas before the next test fire. Yes, a friend accosted me for not putting fresh gas for the first test fire. Before you say anything, I told ya I was newb. But I am learning and trying to make as much progress as I can while trying to replace/repair as much as I can. So I'm cutting my teeth in more ways than one with this bike.


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