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Picked up a 1983 but ..... engine is seized with rust. Bike sat for 8 years out in the elements. Was able to remove the spark plugs which were extremely rusted ! Sucked out water( not antifreeze) from one intake.
I filled spark plug holes with mm oil but it just leaks out exhaust manifold ( have exhaust off). Drained oil and some water( not antifreeze) came out first then the oil.
Thoughts? Will probably have to find a way to plug the exhaust manifold unless someone has a better idea.


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I would pull the heads off, then keep spraying the cylinders with a mixture of Oil and Acetone,

or brake cleaner at first, or this which I have seen first hand, remove rust off of 30 year old Manifold Bolts, so completely that I spun the nuts off with my bare hands. this was on a '69 Oldsmobile where the exhaust manifold to header gaskets had completely blown out.


https://seafoamworks.com/product/deep-c ... ating-oil/


Once you are able to roll the engine over with a wrench, or the rear wheel in 5th gear.

then drain the pan, I would have that plug out anyway thru this whole procedure....

put in a change of cheap oil and 4 oz of deep-creep and let the starter roll it over until it starts to get hot.

at that point, make a decision as to whether it is good enough to build back up and run it like you stole it,
guarantee you the engine is NOT totalled, just stuck up good.

my brother did this to a Chevy 327 that sat under a rain spout for 20 years, took a few weeks, but it turned loose and he did exactly what I said. Once the Starter Motor started getting really hot,
he drained the pan, put the engine back together, and drove that car for 10 more years
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I wouldn't pull the heads just yet....

Leave the heads on ​then drain crankcase and then put 2 qts of automatic transmission fluid and then fill it all the way to the cap with as much diesel fuel as you can get in it. Tip bike on it's side to get more in. Probably will take a couple gallons.

The idea here is to get this diesel/ATF mix high enough in the crankcase that it's over the tops of the pistons, and let it slowly leak past the piston rings from the inside. Let soak really good a few days.

Take timing belt covers off and use a box-end wrench on the crankshaft pulley back and forth until it can turn over complete revs. The crankshaft pulley bolt has extreme torque on it, so you will be able to rock the crank back and forth forcefully without worrying about breaking the bolt loose...

I wouldn't even worry about the heads/valves until you can turn the crank over....

Good Luck :)
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Fill the crankcase with two part epoxy and wait a few days for it to set up really good, when you're finally convinced it's not worth saving pull the engine and scrap it. In the meantime look on craigslist and Faecesbook marketplace for a cheap parts bike with an engine that's not stuck.
I'm selling good clean fresh hay. If you want some that's already passed through the horse, that comes a little cheaper!

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LAB3 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:09 pm Fill the crankcase with two part epoxy and wait a few days for it to set up really good....
I Like that, :lol: :lol: But you never know, still might be worth resurrecting..... :)
A local inventor has figured a way to turn a sausage grinder backward to manufacture pigs. :lol:

♫ 99 Little Bugs in the Code, ♪
♪ 99 Bugs in the Code. ♫ :(
♫ Take one down, Patch it around, ♪
♫ 127 Little Bugs in the Code. ♫ ♪ :shock:
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Thank you for all the suggestions. I’m leaning towards finding another engine but....... there’s a part of me that wants a challenge and I picked up this bike for penny’s.
Look at her, she’s saying,” please don’t give up , I want to ride again!😀
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Here's an idea, have you pulled the timing belt covers off yet? If there had been a failure of one of the belts then it could well be that you have a valve jamming up against a piston that's keeping it from moving. Have you tried turning the engine in the opposite direction?
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Timing belt covers are off. I tried turning the main crank bolt and no budge. This engine is really stuck!
I might try a trick I saw on YouTube using an aquarium pump and pumping diesel and mm oil through the engine for a few days. Will see.
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If you can get it running it would make one heck of a rat bike just the way it sits, a piece of plywood and some padding for a seat would work just fine. Here's the thing though, if you DO get it running and want to have a "Presentable" looking bike then you can look forward to THAT part of the project nickle and diming you to death in which case you'd be money ahead with the "look for a parts bike" advice or use this one as a parts bike.
I'm selling good clean fresh hay. If you want some that's already passed through the horse, that comes a little cheaper!

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I build custom wings. This was my last build.
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Okay... so today I managed to set up an aquarium pump in a tub under the bike. It’s pumping diesel and mm oil through the engine. Will do this for a few days and hopefully she’s free. If not.... I’m going shopping for an engine 😀
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Might be able to help you on engine. Got a spare parts one in shop. Was gonna pull timing covers, chrome, and valve coves, also chrome, for another 81 building. Have not got it done yet as parts for 81 just coming in.(winter project).

Do not know what shipping would be from SD. If you have no luck on yours we could talk. Was gonna rebuild those carbs also for my 83 aspy.

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Leave the heads on but remove the cams so all the valves are closed to fill the cylinders
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Still running aquarium pump in tub . Diesel plus mm oil . I tried the crankcase bolt and nothing. Wasn’t expecting any results today but man... one really has to be patient not even knowing if it will work !!
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I’m done!!
I have purchased many gold wings over the years and never had issues with a frozen engine! This is my first and my patience is wearing thin! I have soaked the crankcase and even ran an aquarium pump through it for 3 days. I have plugged the exhaust manifold and filled spark plugs holes with penetrating oil, soak that for a week no luck. I even removed the starter . No luck . Next would be to remove the heads but why?? It could be anything. Piston rod bearing, who knows!
Lesson learned to check that the motor turns over before buying.
Will set this aside or sell and just start looking for a running bike.
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made2care wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:14 pm I’m done!!
I have purchased many gold wings over the years and never had issues with a frozen engine! This is my first and my patience is wearing thin! I have soaked the crankcase and even ran an aquarium pump through it for 3 days. I have plugged the exhaust manifold and filled spark plugs holes with penetrating oil, soak that for a week no luck. I even removed the starter . No luck . Next would be to remove the heads but why?? It could be anything. Piston rod bearing, who knows!
Lesson learned to check that the motor turns over before buying.
Will set this aside or sell and just start looking for a running bike.
if you are interested, i have an 83 aspy with just under 60,000 miles. everything works and the carbs were rebuilt by Pistol Petes son Mark 2 years ago. likely one of the last rebuilds he did. shifting purple is the color, bone stock.

I also have a 1980 interstate with 110,000 miles on it. Plastics are from an 83 interstate, candy wineberry red. has the poorboy kit installed that i did myself. headlight, turn signals and brake lights are led.
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I've only unstuck one engine successfully, a single cylinder Briggs engine on a chipper shredder. So you lost a few hours labor and a couple of bucks giving it a try, no harm no foul, you learned something!
I'm selling good clean fresh hay. If you want some that's already passed through the horse, that comes a little cheaper!

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Bought this today for only $200 and it runs ! 😀
Will set the 1100 to the side for now or maybe sell it.
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LAB3 wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:11 am I've only unstuck one engine successfully, a single cylinder Briggs engine on a chipper shredder. So you lost a few hours labor and a couple of bucks giving it a try, no harm no foul, you learned something!
I had a TERRIBLE ride-on mower (an MTD Yard Bug) that was worth everything I paid for it (I got it for free). The engine on it would seize on a VERY regular basis. I would wait for it to cool off a bit, then give the flywheel a mighty whack with a screwdriver and a sledge. It would break free, and I'd continue cutting the lawn.

Pretty sure the piston rings on it were broken. It started burning about as much oil as it did gas. I finally sold it, for $50. Made a profit! :)
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Single carb installed. Runs well. I’m trimming down the bike and canceling/ removing things I don’t need.
The cruise mechanisms sure has a bunch of stuff!! I’m assuming I can remove all this ... since I don’t need the cruise control feature.
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Here’s a pic of my completed build. Took many months and now she is pristine!! And for sale😀here’s a before and after.
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Now That's Purty!! :) :)


A local inventor has figured a way to turn a sausage grinder backward to manufacture pigs. :lol:

♫ 99 Little Bugs in the Code, ♪
♪ 99 Bugs in the Code. ♫ :(
♫ Take one down, Patch it around, ♪
♫ 127 Little Bugs in the Code. ♫ ♪ :shock:
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