1983 Aspy

[Jmicester24]

Hello folks!

I just picked up a 83 Aspencade. It is my 1st motorcycle! I have previously been a scooter guy. The Aspy was not running but I eventually got it to run. I noticed there were a few dash items not working, wires that are cut and a fuse box that isn't labeled. I will attach photos.
Can anyone tell me what wires are disconnected or direct me to a fuse/wiring diagram? I will appreciate it greatly!

[Rambozo]

The factory service manual will have the wiring diagram, and everything else you might need.

[Jmicester24]

I found a manual online from the site below. However the photos and text are very tough for me to see. Is there another site?


https://www.manualslib.com/manual/12755 ... =44#manual

[Jmicester24]

The factory service manual will have the wiring diagram, and everything else you might need.

That manual did not have a wiring diagram. Is there anywhere else I can look?

[joecoolsuncle]

/Manuals.asp?ty ... &year=1983
maybe link will help. there are other manuals on the net, but because of certain rules/copy protections, they cannot be linked here. good luck!
if you live in a metro area, you may even find your info at a library!

[WingAdmin]

Melted fuse block

These (melted!) fuses are not factory. Someone added this fuse block afterwards, most likely to power some kind of accessory. Being that this has clearly been overloaded and is melted and now unsafe, I would strongly suggest you rip this out along with any of the wiring associated with it.

Wire on fork

This, again, is not original to the bike. Probably there to add some kind of aftermarket lighting? Again, I would rip this out and get rid of it.

Accessory terminal

This is the accessory terminal on the original OEM fuse block. The top one is +12V, the bottom one is ground. Something that was connected to +12V was just cut and left, which is really unsafe, and I suspect that the accessory fuse might be blown as a result. I would not be surprised if those wires connected to the terminals are actually running to power the aftermarket fuse block. In any case, I would closely inspect this wiring and make sure it is safe, based on the state of the other aftermarket wiring that has been added to this bike.

Basically, based on the poor quality wiring job I see in these pictures, if it were my bike, I would be opening it up and ripping out every piece of owner-added wiring, then replacing it with new if required. This is what I had to do with my GL1500 - the wiring that had been done by a previous owner was a disaster, so I ripped it all out and started from scratch, doing it properly.

[Jmicester24]

All that excess wiring would explain why some of my dash items are not working.. I will probably take the covers off and check out the wiring this upcoming weekend. Also, would the cut wire on the fork of the bike be connected to the speedometer? Just asking because it look to be connected to the wheel hub.

[WingAdmin]

All that excess wiring would explain why some of my dash items are not working.. I will probably take the covers off and check out the wiring this upcoming weekend. Also, would the cut wire on the fork of the bike be connected to the speedometer? Just asking because it look to be connected to the wheel hub.

Ah, you have a 1983, so yes, that is likely going to be your speed sensor. Check the colors of the wires. If it's your speed sensor, they should be:

Green w/Black stripe
Black w/Yellow stripe
Black w/Brown stripe

[Jmicester24]

It looks like indeed it is the speedo cable. Here is a zoomed in photo. Would it be possible to solder it or replace it?

[Asphaltmaniac]

Wow, looks like an All bikes special? Best of luck with it.

[thboyd29]

FWIW, those circled items (between the speakers) are readouts for the audio system, which is the same Clarion Type 2 system used in the 82 and 83 models. Going from left to right, starting with the one outside of the circle - that's the AM/FM radio readout. In the center is a Hondaline unit that replaced the stock analog voltmeter with a double digital readout that showed voltage and air temp. They also fit the 82 Aspencades. It was intended to plug into the same wire as the stock analog voltmeter, and had an extra wire with an air temp sensor at one end that was intended to fit into a hole you drilled in the bottom of the fairing (under the headlight) and held in place by a grommet. On the far right is the readout for the optional CB radio. Other options for this system were a rider/passenger intercom, and a cassette deck that replaced the left fairing pocket. I believe there was also a "component terminal" that had to be installed if/when you added any of the optional pieces of the system. If you were wondering what all those little black acorn nuts you see on the inside of the fairing as you sit on the bike, they're holding all those components in place.
Note - all of the audio system components (except for the speakers, readouts, head unit and optional cassette deck) and all wiring are contained within the fairing, and if you had the entire system installed as I did, the wiring is something of a rats nest as it came from the dealer. Beware of in-line fuse holders on the optional pieces. They'll use the old-style cylindrical glass fuses like the main bike (at least my 82 - 83 likely the same, but can't guarantee), but the fuse sizes are only 1-2 amp (IIRC) to protect the electronics.

EDIT: PS: The following items from the "Manuals" section of this site may prove useful...
Main GL1100 manual listing: /Manuals.asp?type=GL1100
Installation of the basic Type 2 (or "Type 11" in the doc) system: /Docs/Honda%20G ... -DDF6B.pdf
Intercom/CB/Cassette Deck Installation: /Docs/Honda%20G ... -DDF6B.pdf
Operating manual: /Docs/Honda%20G ... -DDF6B.pdf

And, because I couldn't find this particular doc elsewhere on the site (excuse the pics instead of a pdf, my scanner's attempt to build a pdf didn't work very well)...

Page 1 of 3:

Page 2 of 3:

Page 3 of 3:

Good luck...

PPS to @WingAdmin: I you don't already have a copy of this particular document, please feel free to use it as you see fit.

[thboyd29]

<< snipped to remove stuff I didn't want to comment on >>

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This is the accessory terminal on the original OEM fuse block. The top one is +12V, the bottom one is ground. Something that was connected to +12V was just cut and left, which is really unsafe, and I suspect that the accessory fuse might be blown as a result. I would not be surprised if those wires connected to the terminals are actually running to power the aftermarket fuse block. In any case, I would closely inspect this wiring and make sure it is safe, based on the state of the other aftermarket wiring that has been added to this bike.

Basically, based on the poor quality wiring job I see in these pictures, if it were my bike, I would be opening it up and ripping out every piece of owner-added wiring, then replacing it with new if required. This is what I had to do with my GL1500 - the wiring that had been done by a previous owner was a disaster, so I ripped it all out and started from scratch, doing it properly.

On my 82 Aspy, the stock air compressor connects to the OEM fuse block's accessory terminal. Don't know how the 83 setup was wired, so it may be different. Honda did move the control unit from the top of the false tank in 82 to the handlebars below the instrument panel on the 83, so the manual with the wiring diagram will tell the tale.

[Jmicester24]

FWIW, those circled items (between the speakers) are readouts for the audio system, which is the same Clarion Type 2 system used in the 82 and 83 models. Going from left to right, starting with the one outside of the circle - that's the AM/FM radio readout. In the center is a Hondaline unit that replaced the stock analog voltmeter with a double digital readout that showed voltage and air temp. They also fit the 82 Aspencades. It was intended to plug into the same wire as the stock analog voltmeter, and had an extra wire with an air temp sensor at one end that was intended to fit into a hole you drilled in the bottom of the fairing (under the headlight) and held in place by a grommet. On the far right is the readout for the optional CB radio. Other options for this system were a rider/passenger intercom, and a cassette deck that replaced the left fairing pocket. I believe there was also a "component terminal" that had to be installed if/when you added any of the optional pieces of the system. If you were wondering what all those little black acorn nuts you see on the inside of the fairing as you sit on the bike, they're holding all those components in place.
Note - all of the audio system components (except for the speakers, readouts, head unit and optional cassette deck) and all wiring are contained within the fairing, and if you had the entire system installed as I did, the wiring is something of a rats nest as it came from the dealer. Beware of in-line fuse holders on the optional pieces. They'll use the old-style cylindrical glass fuses like the main bike (at least my 82 - 83 likely the same, but can't guarantee), but the fuse sizes are only 1-2 amp (IIRC) to protect the electronics.

EDIT: PS: The following items from the "Manuals" section of this site may prove useful...
Main GL1100 manual listing: /Manuals.asp?type=GL1100
Installation of the basic Type 2 (or "Type 11" in the doc) system: /Docs/Honda%20G ... -DDF6B.pdf
Intercom/CB/Cassette Deck Installation: /Docs/Honda%20G ... -DDF6B.pdf
Operating manual: /Docs/Honda%20G ... -DDF6B.pdf

And, because I couldn't find this particular doc elsewhere on the site (excuse the pics instead of a pdf, my scanner's attempt to build a pdf didn't work very well)...

Page 1 of 3:
Hondaline 1981-83 Digital VM-Air Temp Meter Pg 1 of 3.jpg

Page 2 of 3:

Hondaline 1981-83 Digital VM-Air Temp Meter Pg 2 of 3.jpg

Page 3 of 3:
Hondaline 1981-83 Digital VM-Air Temp Meter Pg 3 of 3.jpg

Good luck...

PPS to @WingAdmin: I you don't already have a copy of this particular document, please feel free to use it as you see fit.

I appreciate your insight. Those manual will come in handy! I am going to attempt to tackle the wiring this upcoming weekend.