OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow


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froche
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OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

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1985 GL1200A 119,00 miles
So when the bike is stone cold, or has been park for several hours the starter sounds "fine" (as long as the voltage is good), but when hot the starter runs slow. Kind of like my 70's Ford starter which ran fine cold but didn't work when hot, replacing it worked fine.

I thought the GW starters just needed to be cleaned out and brushes and maybe a few bearings replaced.

What do you think?



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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

Post by virgilmobile »

Yes...I did the same for mine...No brushes or bearings needed.Just cleaned and repacked with new grease.
Check out this post.viewtopic.php?t=13017
Mine did drag too till i did this..

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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

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So yours started fine when cold... and real sloooow when hot?

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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

Post by Rednaxs60 »

I agree with Virgilmobile. There ar several good threads on this forum regarding taking the starter apart that applies to the various years. New brushes are only $10.00 or so, so if you can source a new set I'd put in new. The original starter on my '85 LTD was very slow and sometimes I wondered if it would even start the bike. Did the clean and new brushes and it is as per new. Small maintenance item after some 32 years.

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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

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I have had the same problem, anytime but summer it works fine all the time but in the summer I only have to ride about 15 miles and it is hot enough that it will barely turn over (slow enough that it won't start). I have found that if I barely crack the throttle it does fine. BTW I did do the disassemble, clean and re-brush, it didn't seem to make much difference. Oh, I have a GL1200 SEI.

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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

Post by sportsfreaked »

Yes mine did the same thing. Took it out and cleaned it well the brushes were still within limits so I just packed with grease and now it purs when cold and hot and everywhere in between :)
Thanks to all who answer and help. It is greatly appreciated!
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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

Post by froche »

Well I plan on taking it out and dissembling it to clean it out. I ordered a kit which should have new bearings and brushes and probably a gasket or o-ring. I wonder why they run slow when hot but once cleaned run fine?

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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

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Most of the 1200 starter is on roller bearings but there is one bushing to bind up

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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

Post by sportsfreaked »

You'll answer your question once you clean it as to why when hot she turns slow. There is no grease in there and nothing but 30 years of carbon build up. It makes it more difficult to turn when warm due to the lack of lubrication is my thought. The difference is night and day. You will say darn that was easy. Good luck.
Thanks to all who answer and help. It is greatly appreciated!
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1968 Harley Davidson Sportster
1974 Honda CB750
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Re: OK it been asked but my starter runs real slow

Post by froche »

It sounds easy, and that link provided was full of information! Since I volunteer at an antique tractor museum, I get my hands dirty every week, so I am not afraid of a little work!



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