Fuel Pump question


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swimtech01
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Fuel Pump question

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Hello fellow goldwingers,

I'm in the middle of my 1986 GL1200 SEi restoration. After purging the old fuel, giving it fresh fuel and some Marvel Mystery Oil, and hooking up the new battery, I gave it a crank. I now believe I have a fuel delivery issue. My question is, should I hear the fuel pump prime the system for 2-3 seconds, like every other bike I've ever owned? I know I have spark because I shot some carb cleaner in the fuel injector access holes, and the bike tries to turn over but then runs quickly out of combustible fuel. Give me some thoughts and ideas as to what I might look for from here.

Thanks much - Bill



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Re: Fuel Pump question

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When you turn on the ignition, the fuel pump will cycle to build up pressure in the system, shut off, then turn on as soon as the bike starts. You can check this by following the wiring back to under the seat. The connector will be on the forward right side of the rear fender, just behind where the signal light flasher is. You will see two connectors side by each, it is the inner most 2 wire connector.

Have you changed your fuel filter? The OEM fuel filter is obsolete. Some acceptable substitutes are: Hastings GF159/Beck Arney 043-0897/Fram G3969.

Some thoughts on replacement fuel pumps:

Prelude OEM = 06167-PE7-751 
Walbro GCL616
Walbro 5CA201
1986 Honda Prelude 2.0 Fuel Pump
airtex E8312

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just so you know, if you use the Fram G 3969 filter, it is much larger than the stock OEM honda filter. if you have a chrome cover that goes around it, you won't be able to reuse it for the new filter. unless you want to do what i did to reuse some of the chrome cover, which is plastic by the way.

in order to reuse my chrome filter cover, i took my angle grinder and grinded off the sides of the cover and took some rubber cement and glued it down on the top banjo bolt. below is a pic of how it looks.

once you get the filter into the holding bracket, take a pair of tong-in-groove pliers and squeeze the ends of the filter clamp closer together and use a longer bolt to bolt it into the bracket. you might need to use a narrower bolt with a nut behind it. i used a long 1/4" fine threaded SAE bolt with a lock washer and nut. if you enlarge the photo, you might be able to see the bolt i used. its just under the center lip of the filter.

stuart.
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Re: Fuel Pump question

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Thanks for the info. I was able to find the other recommended replacement on Amazon. Hopefully that on will be the same size. It's great having a forum to bounce ideas off of and get the workarounds that everyone has discovered...

Thanks again, Bill

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if i may ask, how much did it cost you?

stuart.

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With Amazon Prime - $17.50.

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And this was the brand and model.

Beck Arney 043-0897

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Re: Fuel Pump question

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swimtech01 wrote:And this was the brand and model.

Beck Arney 043-0897
This fuel filter works, but is considerably larger than the OEM. Have it installed on my bike. Here is what I did to mine to make the Beck Arney filter fit:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33846

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i got my Fram filter from ebay at the cost of $11.00 with free shipping.

stuart.



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