Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival


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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by DaveO430 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:08 am



Afraziaaaa wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:13 pm

I had the same thought. I have done Harley forks before which only use a crush washer, no sealant. The sealant was foreign to me. Interested in how you make out!
I have done quite a few myself and never knew they required sealer. I even drilled my 1800 and installed external drain screws and only used crush washers, still no leaks and it's due a change again.



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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:09 pm

Overkill then, I suppose. I picked up the permatex stuff, so I might as well use it!

Tearing down the used forks I picked up and one has a stuck bushing or something because I am pulling and pulling hard and can not get the tube out of the slider (yes, the bolt and circlip are out). I’m thinking I may take a heat gun to it tomorrow or Thursday and see if that helps.

I do not have a seal puller, but they are cheap. Plan B if the heat gun doesn’t do the trick.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:51 pm

DaveO430 wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:08 am

I even drilled my 1800 and installed external drain screws and only used crush washers, still no leaks and it's due a change again.
This is a good idea.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:54 am

Got the left fork all built up with the progressive spring. Just couldn't get the right fork apart no matter what I tried. Inquired with a shop up the road from me, but their labor charge to get the thing apart is more than another used fork on ebay, so the decision was easy. By the time this front end is rebuilt, i'll be a one-stop shop for GL1200 front end parts...

Received used oil pump to replace the cracked pump seal housing. Once that is done, I can install the water pump and front trans cover and move on to the timing belts.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by julimike54 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:40 pm

Did you try an impact driver? Also warming the threadlock will help it lose its grip.
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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:36 pm

julimike54 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:40 pm
Did you try an impact driver? Also warming the threadlock will help it lose its grip.
Not sure we are on the same page here. Right fork seal is stuck in the slider. Will not come out when tube is used as a slide hammer.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by DaveO430 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:28 pm

Afraziaaaa wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:36 pm


Not sure we are on the same page here. Right fork seal is stuck in the slider. Will not come out when tube is used as a slide hammer.
It's probably not the seal stuck, it is the washer underneath it. If you can pull the seal out with a couple of screws then hammer the washer back down flat it will probably come out. I did once pull the bushing out through that washer, took a lot of pounding.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:44 pm

DaveO430 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:28 pm

It's probably not the seal stuck, it is the washer underneath it. If you can pull the seal out with a couple of screws then hammer the washer back down flat it will probably come out. I did once pull the bushing out through that washer, took a lot of pounding.
Interesting idea. I did have a hell of a time with the circlip on this one. Was rusted in pretty good. Forks had not been serviced as they still had the ‘84 plastic washer and remnants of the foam spacer.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:46 pm

One thing after another on this one. I have misplaced the remainder of the water pump seal kit. Knowing myself, I probably put it in a “safe place”...

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by julimike54 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:55 am

Afraziaaaa wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:36 pm
julimike54 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:40 pm
Did you try an impact driver? Also warming the threadlock will help it lose its grip.
Not sure we are on the same page here. Right fork seal is stuck in the slider. Will not come out when tube is used as a slide hammer.
Yep, thought you were having trouble removing the drain bolt.
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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:06 pm

Finally got some new legs.

Now to find the gaskets I misplaced....

Timing belts next.

Also, because we all need more motorcycles in our lives. This one actually runs, though not a wing!




EDIT: no idea why the Suzuki pic is showing upside down...?

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by DenverWinger » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:00 am

That looks like my old GS-550, same color and everything, except mine had the wheels pointing DOWN! :lol:
They say 98% of all Hardleys ever made are still on the road..... The other 2% made it home. :lol:
(I stole this from somebody on another GW site...) :roll:

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:28 am

DenverWinger wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:00 am
That looks like my old GS-550, same color and everything, except mine had the wheels pointing DOWN! :lol:
hope it's not an omen...

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:02 pm

Timing belts changed. Also replaced the tensioners. One was rusted badly, but the belts didn’t look too bad.

Also found a boot on a caliper mounting bolt had turned to jelly, probably from the old fork oil that had leaked out onto it.





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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by julimike54 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:32 am

Found the boot in the same condition on the right caliper linkage connection. Almost looked like it was cooked from heat. The rest didn't look that way.
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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:09 pm

julimike54 wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:32 am
Found the boot in the same condition on the right caliper linkage connection. Almost looked like it was cooked from heat. The rest didn't look that way.
Maybe so. This was also the only one. Easy to fix before I get the front trans cover bolted up and the front wheel changed over to new and mounted.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Ralf_CT » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:06 am

Afraziaaaa wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:15 pm

Pretty heavy pitting in the fork tubes.
Not possible to have the fork tubes stripped and hard-chromed?
Ex GL1100 Interstate rider. Aspiring GL1500/1800 rider.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:45 pm

Ralf_CT wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:06 am
Afraziaaaa wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:15 pm

Pretty heavy pitting in the fork tubes.
Not possible to have the fork tubes stripped and hard-chromed?
Possible, maybe. Not practical in my case. Nobody near me that does good chrome at a price I was willing to pay. Didn’t look into it any further than that.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:49 pm

New wheel. Axle nut is in bad shape but I put it back on for now. Tire it came with is no good, will need to be changed as it has a big bulge in the side wall.





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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:14 pm

Got the front trans cover back on. Discovered that I’ll need to make further repairs to the thermostat wiring. Gonna set this project on the back burner for a bit while I sort my Harley out. Need something to ride and it’s the closest one to being done! Maybe will take a couple weeks for that.

Next on the wing I will pull the carbs and motor. I do have a lift and am wondering if it is best to pull the motor while the bike is on the ground, or if it is best to pull the motor with the bike on the lift and in the air.



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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by DaveO430 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:39 pm

Easier to pull the engine with it on the ground. You can use a floor jack and roll it out.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:58 am

DaveO430 wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:39 pm
Easier to pull the engine with it on the ground. You can use a floor jack and roll it out.
Good to know, thanks. I'll be pulling it myself, so that sounds reasonable. Saw the video on youtube of the guy doing it strapped to a transmission jack.

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by armond martin III » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:36 am

As a previous owner of an 86 gl1200I for about 26 years I became very familiar with this model . I bought it new . Ebay is a good source for used parts . Just make sure the description matches well with the pics . And check the sellers feedback . You are on the right track with most all of your repairs . But one thing that has not been mentioned is the charging system . At about 60k the stator went out on my 86 . I looked into my options and descided an external alternator was the way I wanted to go . It's a very strait forward install with a huge improvement over the stock system . Check this site for venders that supply it . You will be very happy with the outcome .

Are you sure about the front wheel being a problem . These bikes had a problem from nearly new with the really bad shake in the front wheel which was caused by the steering head bearings not torqued correctly .

Yes the rattle in the engine is usually from the carbs . Be very sure of cleaning and reassemble and don't touch the sync screws except on restart to actually resync the carbs .

The smoke will eventually go away . always park it on the center stand for longer storage .

Good luck with your project and when it is on the road enjoy one of Hondas good road bikes ...

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Re: Project: 1984 Aspencade (GL1200) Revival

Post by Afraziaaaa » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:00 pm

armond martin III wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:36 am
As a previous owner of an 86 gl1200I for about 26 years I became very familiar with this model . I bought it new . Ebay is a good source for used parts . Just make sure the description matches well with the pics . And check the sellers feedback . You are on the right track with most all of your repairs . But one thing that has not been mentioned is the charging system . At about 60k the stator went out on my 86 . I looked into my options and descided an external alternator was the way I wanted to go . It's a very strait forward install with a huge improvement over the stock system . Check this site for venders that supply it . You will be very happy with the outcome .

Are you sure about the front wheel being a problem . These bikes had a problem from nearly new with the really bad shake in the front wheel which was caused by the steering head bearings not torqued correctly .

Yes the rattle in the engine is usually from the carbs . Be very sure of cleaning and reassemble and don't touch the sync screws except on restart to actually resync the carbs .

The smoke will eventually go away . always park it on the center stand for longer storage .

Good luck with your project and when it is on the road enjoy one of Hondas good road bikes ...
Thanks for that. The stator is out and is #4 on my to do list in the first post. Already purchased from randakk. This is my only real reason for pulling the motor.

And, no I am not sure about the wheel! In fact, I have been thinking of checking the original wheel for true and balance then putting it back on the bike if it’s ok. I initially suspected it due to some of the rim material being removed (filed off) on one side, but since rebuilding the front end and discovering it’s very poor condition, I am thinking of giving the wheel a good look. I also did specifically find the steering head bearings not torqued correctly when I reconditioned the front end.

Glad to hear the smoke will go away because it is really a sight, smell, etc.



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