Clutch problem


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Malm
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Clutch problem

Post by Malm » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:03 am



Hi, my first post, new to GoldWings but not new to riding, or Hondas....

My GL1200I has a clutch issue... I have to pull it all the way into the handlebar to disengage, and letting it back out even 1/2" clutch is engaging....
Is this a wore out slave? Need bleeding?
The fluid in the reserve looks a bit ugly, she has been sitting up for a while. I plan on bleeding and new fluid, but if I have to rebuild the slave, I'd just wait til I get that finished before flushing and bleeding.

Thanks!!

I am also a new believer in seafoam and injector cleaner, from reading here.... she ran real bad, but that has her back running real well...


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Re: Clutch problem

Post by oldishwinger » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:09 pm

I think it could be worth firstly, putting a new kit in the master cylinder, and then new fluid (dot 4) and bleed. if it still plays up, then pull the slave cylinder to check usually though, if its the seals in the slave cylinder it will leak.

Bleeding can be a bit of a mission sometimes, to get all the air out it may involve, bleeding in the banjo bolt at the master cylinder, and and unscrewing the bleeder.

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Rednaxs60 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:06 pm

Check the clutch lever bushing. These tend to wear over time and can be a contributing factor as well.
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Re: Clutch problem

Post by jhporter » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:54 pm

I have a similar problem. When I start to let the clutch out, it wants to go right away, and then I can't seem to get it out of gear, back into neutral. It wants to go right into 2nd. I have checked the fluid in the master cylinder and it is full, but the clutch lever seems weak, like it is not engaging.

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Malm » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:19 am

I am thinking the bushing is a good thought, I ordered one and a rebuild kit for the master, flush it out, bleed, new bushing and I will post back my results, hopefully this weekend....

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by jhporter » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:35 am

I ordered a Master cylinder rebuild kit and will try that to see if it works. Hope so.

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Rednaxs60 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:28 am

Don't rule out the clutch slave - only three parts needed. It collects a lot of crud being at the end of the line so to speak.
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Re: Clutch problem

Post by jhporter » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:32 am

Which three parts are they?

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Rednaxs60 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:48 am

In the parts fiche under clutch cover. P/N 7 - 22864-MB0-003, P/N 8 - 22865-MG9-003, P/N 14 - 91209-MB0-003
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Re: Clutch problem

Post by oldishwinger » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:47 pm

Malm wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:19 am
I am thinking the bushing is a good thought, I ordered one and a rebuild kit for the master, flush it out, bleed, new bushing and I will post back my results, hopefully this weekend....

Thanks guys.
when you have the old kit out before installing the new kit, its worth checking the return hole to make sure its clear. if this is blocked, it too can cause clutch issues.

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by jhporter » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Thanks..................

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by leakyroof58 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:31 pm

Afterthought -
2 years ago I had a similar problem -
hot day, pulled up to state park entrance
and it was as if clutch would NOT disengage,
even pulled back to the bar. Reading on these
same forums I decided to change from
synthetic oil to good-'ol Valvoline 10-40.
Subsequent summers have shown no more
"creep'. After all, our bikes are 30+ years
old, and Honda couldn't have planned for
the oils we have today. I say "dance with
who brung ya' "
Give it a try - nothing to lose..........

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Malm » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:34 pm

I tried to just bleed the clutch today, and all I did was make it worse... Not sure what is wrong, but I bought a master and slave rebuild kit and the bushing, gonna take it all apart, and clean it all up... that fluid is nasty... so, it needs it.

I ain't figured out how to get to the slave to remove it yet, it's buried in there in the SEI.
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Re: Clutch problem

Post by oldishwinger » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:11 pm

Malm wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:34 pm
I tried to just bleed the clutch today, and all I did was make it worse... Not sure what is wrong, but I bought a master and slave rebuild kit and the bushing, gonna take it all apart, and clean it all up... that fluid is nasty... so, it needs it.

I ain't figured out how to get to the slave to remove it yet, it's buried in there in the SEI.
The fluid being rubbish has probably a something to do with it. removing the slave cylinder, you will probably learn some new swear words, lol its awkward but doable.

good luck

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Rednaxs60 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:25 am

Malm wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:34 pm
I tried to just bleed the clutch today, and all I did was make it worse... Not sure what is wrong, but I bought a master and slave rebuild kit and the bushing, gonna take it all apart, and clean it all up... that fluid is nasty... so, it needs it.

I ain't figured out how to get to the slave to remove it yet, it's buried in there in the SEI.
Go in from the left side above the left foot peg. removing the rear wheel will help as well.
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Re: Clutch problem

Post by Rusty Bike » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:53 pm

Check that clutch lever and bushing guys. You problems are typicle of a worn out bushing and lever, not releasing the clutch far enough. Simple things first.

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Re: Clutch problem

Post by jhporter » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:09 pm

Overhauled the master cylinder today. Works great now. That did the trick.



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