*** Worth the trouble.....? ***


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Psycheonabike
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*** Worth the trouble.....? ***

Post by Psycheonabike » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:50 am



I have had bikes since I was 17 - 54 now, old ones too. Refurbed and got up n running just right. I am really struggling with this bike though. I have been working on my '85 GL1200 Aspy for some weeks now and here is whats still outstanding - its starting to get a tad laborious!
  • Bumpy ride. No idea whats causing it. Not bearing. Not tyres. Not rims. Does it in neutral on the flattest smoothest roads on the planet. Isn't uniform so not ill fitting tyres. Does it with engine off. Tried different permutations of tyre pressure and suspension settings.
  • Clutch. Bled. No air (so far as I can tell). Master cylinder was absolutely filthy with what looked like a black tar in there. Cleaned thoroughly and then bled - TWICE! Worse now. Clunking and jumping is bad when going into first from neutral. Can't start her with clutch pulled in as starter labours too much. No idea what to do next there???
  • Noise. Small 'clunk' rear end when moving off. Some say don't worry 'they all do this' others suggest U-Joint. I am taking the wheel off over the weekend to check splines and fill with Moly
Any help advice or otherwise inspiration would go some way towards me avoiding selling her on and spending another 2k on getting an update!!! I use my bike for a 100 mile a day commute through the Wiltshire and Somerset countryside here in the South West of England UK.....think 'Stonehenge', I pass there daily!

Cheers!



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Re: *** Worth the trouble.....? ***

Post by jaimenv » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:09 am

Bumpy ride. No idea whats causing it. Not bearing. Not tyres. Not rims. Does it in neutral on the flattest smoothest roads on the planet. Isn't uniform so not ill fitting tyres. Does it with engine off. Tried different permutations of tyre pressure and suspension settings.

Noise. Small 'clunk' rear end when moving off. Some say don't worry 'they all do this' others suggest U-Joint. I am taking the wheel off over the weekend to check splines and fill with Moly
There is a pretty good or bad chance that this two are related, while you have the rear tire out to check the splines on the final drive, check the swing arm for binding and side to side play, looking for worn swing arm bearings.
Clutch. Bled. No air (so far as I can tell). Master cylinder was absolutely filthy with what looked like a black tar in there. Cleaned thoroughly and then bled - TWICE! Worse now. Clunking and jumping is bad when going into first from neutral. Can't start her with clutch pulled in as starter labours too much. No idea what to do next there???
The clutch is definitely not disengaging completely when pulled, have you tried pumping it a few times before going in to 1st and see if it makes a difference.
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Re: *** Worth the trouble.....? ***

Post by dingdong » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:56 am

Clutch problem is more than likely the slave cylinder. If the rest of the system was filthy so is the slave. Remove and rebuild.
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Re: *** Worth the trouble.....? ***

Post by Psycheonabike » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:22 am

jaimenv wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:09 am


The clutch is definitely not disengaging completely when pulled, have you tried pumping it a few times before going in to 1st and see if it makes a difference.
That DOES make a difference yes.....whats does that mean?

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Re: *** Worth the trouble.....? ***

Post by jaimenv » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:28 pm

Like DINGDONG said above rebuild the slave, then again the master cylinder could be in need of a rebuild too.
Me in your shoes I go 1st with the one that you found to be the nastier.

By pumping the lever a few times you are compensating for a slow moving piston in the slave or worn seals in the master.


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