The hat trick - I’m done!


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TheRepoGuy
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The hat trick - I’m done!

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Alright - I had the hat trick of “fack me’s!” Tonight with this old girl!! First the starter didn’t engage at all, second when I removed said starter the sprocket fell out of the chain and lastly the neutral diode is that sits above the battery no longer has the magic smoke in it. I’m done for the night! — 

Top it off - the solenoid is screwed ha! Yup - I’m pissed off but all I can do is laugh about it!

SO - back to square one; Starter went with my girlfriends ex-husband for a deep cleaning in an ultrasonic bath; new solenoid ordered, The Neutral Diode baffles me completely - When I posted this via FB, someone suggested I plugged in the starter solenoid the wrong way.

And yes - I ordered more magic smoke front amazon 🤣









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Looks like an aftermarket solenoid and they are NOT wired the same. Happens all the time, plug it in without checking and it will smoke something.

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DaveO430 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:29 pm
Looks like an aftermarket solenoid and they are NOT wired the same. Happens all the time, plug it in without checking and it will smoke something.
It definitely was - need to figure out what’s what on the top ha!

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Wonder if that aftermarket solenoid even has the internal connections as the Honda OEM did?


Make Courtesy your "Code of the Road" …

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CrystalPistol wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:10 pm
Wonder if that aftermarket solenoid even has the internal connections as the Honda OEM did?

Starter Relay wireing update 1998 800w.jpg
Probably not - I may wire it directly from the plug with spade terminals to eliminate this from happening again.

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I just had the same issue with my solenoid and connector melted completely and I ordered the same part just got in from a ride and noticed the new connector wire's hot not melting hot but hot.

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steppin stone wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:59 pm
I just had the same issue with my solenoid and connector melted completely and I ordered the same part just got in from a ride and noticed the new connector wire's hot not melting hot but hot.
This one came From EBay; haven’t heard a word from the seller as far as a replacement goes either 🙄

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steppin stone wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:59 pm
I just had the same issue with my solenoid and connector melted completely and I ordered the same part just got in from a ride and noticed the new connector wire's hot not melting hot but hot.
Not sure y'all got my "drift".

I'm writing about the internal connection across two terminals within the Honda OEM Solenoid.

Originally, power to run the bike went into solenoid from "red & white" wires from Reg/Rec into solenoid through spade terminal in plug, then back out to rest of bike through a second connector within the plug (same black one on top of solenoid) , and that resulted in two un-needed points of resistance, heat, melted plugs & even toasted wires resulted …
… and so Honda revised the plug (in plug update kit form) to include a jumper outside of the solenoid represented in blue in this pic. No other changes, just a second/redundant parallel path for current bypassing connector.
It's that "internal path" that I wonder if is included in aftermarket solenoids, as not all 1200s got the revised/updated plug change. I found it by accident when updating my near melted solenoid plug back then.
Look closely …. when updating, there were no changes to OEM solenoid, there's that internal path still there.




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… & Have a Safe Trip!
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